Are Cops Constitutional?

[SVT-40]

By that you mean you searched back through my old posts...

Good boy !!!

[riddler408]

I kind of agree with you, but also look at the last 40 years. The world's population has doubled. That can give someone a feeling of being backed into a wall with people frothing at the mouth after you. It has to be scary, and would affect a great deal about the whole policing thing.

That is a valid point.

but still no reason for the militarization of local police agencies. Nor is it good reason for the average citizen to allow, condone, or become used to it. It is a problem I see in this country. People are far to accepting of the chipping away of our liberties. And once that happens they accept it as the status quo. We tend to never look back. Look at homeland security and the patriot act.. considered status quo by many... no reason to do away with such things.. its normal..

Makes me sick.

[Robin47]

[Great Article/Essay]

http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm

Seton Hall Constitutional L.J. 2001, 685

ARE COPS CONSTITUTIONAL?

Roger Roots*

ABSTRACT

Police work is often lionized by jurists and scholars who claim to employ "textualist" and "originalist" methods of constitutional interpretation. Yet professional police were unknown to the United States in 1789, and first appeared in America almost a half-century after the Constitution's ratification. The Framers contemplated law enforcement as the duty of mostly private citizens, along with a few constables and sheriffs who could be called upon when necessary. This article marshals extensive historical and legal evidence to show that modern policing is in many ways inconsistent with the original intent of America's founding documents. The author argues that the growth of modern policing has substantially empowered the state in a way the Framers would regard as abhorrent to their foremost principles.

PART I

INTRODUCTION...................................... ..........................686

THE CONSTITUTIONAL TEXT.............................................. 688

PRIVATE PROSECUTORS....................................... .............689

LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A UNIVERSAL................................692

POLICE AS SOCIAL WORKERS........................................... ..695

THE WAR ON CRIME............................................. .............696

THE DEVELOPMENT OF DISTINCTIONS................................698

RESISTING ARREST............................................ ................701

THE SAFETY OF THE POLICE PROFESSION............................711

PROFESSIONALISM?.................................. ........................713

DNA EVIDENCE ILLUSTRATES FALLIBILITY OF POLICE........716

COPS NOT COST-EFFECTIVE DETERRENT.............................721

PART II

POLICE AS A STANDING ARMY

Good article thanks, also the one on your post #12.
This is really true.
I feel sad because of the 13 year old boy shot 7 times and killed 3 days ago
here in Santa Rosa,California just because he had a toy rifle.
Andy Lopez, and he was a good kid.
Other kids played with that same toy rifle to.
If AB144 and AB1527 had not been signed into law, this year
that boy would be alive today.
Yes living in a police state is not easy. Robin47

[epilepticninja]

Gee, another cop hating thread, who da thunk? This is a gun forum people, not an LEO hating forum. Take this trash elsewhere.

[BrassCase]

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