Are Cops Constitutional?

[KABA556]

The reasoning behind the Third Amendment is not that soldiers quartered in a house would burp at the dinner table and upset the home-owner. The reasoning is that the home-owner would be financially ruined having to provide for said soldiers and that they would violate the peace of his home.

Having to pay immense taxes for the upkeep of soldiers and militarized/professional police is a violation of a major part of the spirit of the Third Amendment.


The Founding Fathers would be ashamed of the Armed Forces of this nation because they were entirely against the idea of a standing army, let alone a standing army that has a budget greater than every other nation in the world, COMBINED.


But when you have a Federal Reserve Central Bank you will need a standing army because the standing army will be required to protect the bank and keep the citizens in line when they rise up demanding their nation back.


A standing army requires a central bank to fund it and a central bank requires a standing army to prop it up and keep it safe, the two feed on each other.

It is no coincidence that America wound up with a significant standing army around the time of the creation of the Federal Reserve. Standing Armies and Central Banks are bosom buddies.

[riddler408]

Anti Police Bigotry... Wow... Just wow...

[Artema]

Sheriff is constitutional. City police are not UNconstitutional as far as I can tell.

[KABA556]

Anti Police Bigotry... Wow... Just wow...

Police are exempted from all magazine restrictions in states with magazine restrictions, often even extending to personal magazines for personal weapons.

If you harm a police officer the sentence is greater, often with a mandatory minimum.

If you harm a police dog it is usually a felony, whereas if you harm some regular citizen's pet dog or pet cat it is almost always a misdemeanor.

In Ohio a police officer may be in control of his weapon while intoxicated and it is not an offense. I believe the FOP's logic behind that was along the lines of- "we don't want to have off-duty officers going around unarmed and being left vulnerable and open to harm... They have a right to have their weapon with them even if they're going to have a beer or two while they're off-duty. Plus they need to be armed in case they have to respond to an incident while off-duty."

As for an Ohio resident with a concealed pistol permit... Drink so much as one beer while carrying your weapon and your permit will almost certainly be pulled and you're instantly open to arrest for various charges.



I never see police picketing demanding equality before the law in regards to normal citizens and police being treated the same.



Here's a drunk sergeant who failed a Breathalyzer and wasn't even charged with any offense, it was an "internal administrative matter."

http://www.wlwt.com/news/local-news/cincinnati/Cincinnati-officer-accused-of-being-under-the-influence-while-on-duty/-/13549970/17762812/-/sjo5haz/-/index.html

[SVT-40]

Police are some of the most bigoted people in the nation. They support two sets of laws, one group for themselves, another group for everybody else...


Police are exempted from all magazine restrictions in states with magazine restrictions, often even extending to personal magazines for personal weapons.

If you harm a police officer the sentence is greater, often with a mandatory minimum.

If you harm a police dog it is usually a felony, whereas if you harm some regular citizen's pet dog or pet cat it is almost always a misdemeanor.

In Ohio a police officer may be in control of his weapon while intoxicated and it is not an offense. I believe the FOP's logic behind that was along the lines of- "we don't want to have off-duty officers going around unarmed and being left vulnerable and open to harm... They have a right to have their weapon with them even if they're going to have a beer or two while they're off-duty. Plus they need to be armed in case they have to respond to an incident while off-duty."

As for an Ohio resident with a concealed pistol permit... Drink so much as one beer while carrying your weapon and your permit will almost certainly be pulled and you're instantly open to arrest for various charges.



I never see police picketing demanding equality before the law in regards to normal citizens and police being treated the same.



Here's a drunk sergeant who failed a Breathalyzer and wasn't even charged with any offense, it was an "internal administrative matter."

http://www.wlwt.com/news/local-news/...z/-/index.html

I'm surprised you can even walk around, with the size of that chip on your shoulder....

Seriously dude take a breath... Not all cops are the enemy....

[dirty_530]

Ken Marcus is a cop and he is the opposite of constitutional

[SVT-40]

If you knew anything about the law you'd know about the concept of STANDING.


I cannot file a lawsuit over a gun law in a state that does not impact me, I cannot file suit because I disagree with police conduct that did not impact me...

If I find police behavior in some town down the road objectionable, I cannot simply file suit.


That mommy's basement remark confirmed I was right to put you on ignore and wrong to do "display post" on the off-chance that you had something to say that was worth reading.

Hey your the one claiming that the police violate the 3rd amendment to the constitution....

Put up or shut up..

[KABA556]

Hey your the one claiming that the police violate the 3rd amendment to the constitution....

Put up or shut up..

If you understood the concept of "spirit of the law" you would understand that the existence of a standing body of professional police, especially when they are equipped and organized along paramilitary/military lines, is a violation of the SPIRIT of the third amendment. A major point of the Third Amendment is that citizens are not to be financially burdened with having to support and sustain a body of troops/soldiers/authority enforcers. Taxing citizens to support the maintenance of large numbers of soldiers AND police, is a violation of the spirit of the Third Amendment.


Read the Anti-Federalist papers, hell even some of the Federalist papers...

Are cops allowed to read when they're not on duty or are they only allowed to get drunk, go into bars, and assault women who turn down their advances?

[Exodus343]

tagged for later

[TRICKSTER]

What is sad is that a great informative forum is being taken over by a bunch of s and Sovereign Citizen propagandist.

[KABA556]

What is sad is that a great informative forum is being taken over by a bunch of s and Sovereign Citizen propagandist.

I'm not a Sovereign Citizens. Sovereign Citizens shout and scream about insane garbage such as "that's a maritime flag, we're under admiralty law... I don't need license plates, I sent the Department of Motor Vehicles a letter explaining I'm a sovereign and I have sovereign immunity!"

They use those insane arguments right up until they're the cell door closes, then they try to use them on their bogus appeals.


If you understand the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure it is possible to hold your own in a basic case.

[riddler408]

No, I agree with you. That statement shocked me. I didn't realize that if one doesn't agree with the modern police force one is a bigot... I have noticed how sensitive leos are here. They seem to act as if police forces have always been the way they are now, and cry like babies everytime someone speaks out against them.. I am not completely agaist police, but I do not agree with what they have become in the last 30 years. I feel it is totally un necessary. They tend to cause problems from nothing. Not always but far mre than need be.

Police are some of the most bigoted people in the nation. They support two sets of laws, one group for themselves, another group for everybody else...


Police are exempted from all magazine restrictions in states with magazine restrictions, often even extending to personal magazines for personal weapons.

If you harm a police officer the sentence is greater, often with a mandatory minimum.

If you harm a police dog it is usually a felony, whereas if you harm some regular citizen's pet dog or pet cat it is almost always a misdemeanor.

In Ohio a police officer may be in control of his weapon while intoxicated and it is not an offense. I believe the FOP's logic behind that was along the lines of- "we don't want to have off-duty officers going around unarmed and being left vulnerable and open to harm... They have a right to have their weapon with them even if they're going to have a beer or two while they're off-duty. Plus they need to be armed in case they have to respond to an incident while off-duty."

As for an Ohio resident with a concealed pistol permit... Drink so much as one beer while carrying your weapon and your permit will almost certainly be pulled and you're instantly open to arrest for various charges.



I never see police picketing demanding equality before the law in regards to normal citizens and police being treated the same.



Here's a drunk sergeant who failed a Breathalyzer and wasn't even charged with any offense, it was an "internal administrative matter."

http://www.wlwt.com/news/local-news/...z/-/index.html

[Artema]

No, I agree with you. That statement shocked me. I didn't realize that if one doesn't agree with the modern police force one is a bigot... I have noticed how sensitive leos are here. They seem to act as if police forces have always been the way they are now, and cry like babies everytime someone speaks out against them.. I am not completely agaist police, but I do not agree with what they have become in the last 30 years. I feel it is totally un necessary. They tend to cause problems from nothing. Not always but far mre than need be.

I kind of agree with you, but also look at the last 40 years. The world's population has doubled. That can give someone a feeling of being backed into a wall with people frothing at the mouth after you. It has to be scary, and would affect a great deal about the whole policing thing.

[SVT-40]

What is sad is that a great informative forum is being taken over by a bunch of s and Sovereign Citizen propagandist.

I don't believe that KABA556 is a one of those Sovereign Citizens"...

My contacts in the KGB tell me he's a young college student studying for his engineering degree at a college in Ohio.......

[KABA556]

I don't believe that KABA556 is a one of those Sovereign Citizens"...

My contacts in the KGB tell me he's a young college student studying for his engineering degree at a college in Ohio.......

By that you mean you searched back through my old posts...