Banned by name AW registration question

[Germz]

An associate has told me that he possesses an Arsenal SLR-95 AK, which is banned by name. He gave me a timeframe in which he purchased it (93-94) but is not sure whether he had registered it or not as he has traveled throughout the country on military orders.

1. how can he find out if he had infact registered it as an AW?

2. If possible, how can he register it as an AW...or has that timeframe been missed?

Thank you for your informed responses.

[CAL.BAR]

If he doesn't specifically remember registering it... chances are HE DIDN'T. Back in '88 for the named ban I had to actually take all my named rifles to the police department to have them reviewed for registration. Further, if he DIDN'T register them then.... there is NO way to register it now. He could remove the lower and swap it with his upper etc., but no way to register it now.

If he wants to find out IF he registered it (ok....) then he would have to write to the CA DOJ and ask for a copy of the registration paperwork. Of course, if he DIDN'T register it, they will then know about it and it could be a problem for him in theory. However, I have been told by a person "in the know" that the DOJ LOST many of the registration records over the years (remember a time before computers kids) and therefore CANNOT guarantee that just b/c they don't have proof of registration that it didn't happen.

[dls]

Can't you fill out a request for firearms records ? http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...teCitizen.pdf?

Even though it's a long gun,if it was registered as an AW it might show.. worth a try ?

[Beelzy]

Trust me on this, nobody forgets paying the Man for fingerprints....which was required to register an AW back then.

[prometa]

If he wants to find out IF he registered it (ok....) then he would have to write to the CA DOJ and ask for a copy of the registration paperwork. Of course, if he DIDN'T register it, they will then know about it and it could be a problem for him in theory. However, I have been told by a person "in the know" that the DOJ LOST many of the registration records over the years (remember a time before computers kids) and therefore CANNOT guarantee that just b/c they don't have proof of registration that it didn't happen.

If the DOJ can't prove you didn't register it, then essentially all unregistered assault weapons are now just "lost registrations"

[CAL.BAR]

If the DOJ can't prove you didn't register it, then essentially all unregistered assault weapons are now just "lost registrations"

That is what my source was referring to. I have not seen a court case about it yet, but I'm always looking for a good vehicle to test this case.

[Citadelgrad87]

If the DOJ can't prove you didn't register it, then essentially all unregistered assault weapons are now just "lost registrations"

They CAN prove it, they can search their records and say that there is no record.

Of course, you would be free to show them your record of registration that should rebut the presumption, but this seems like a very dangerous way to play it.

ETA, as an example, cars need to be registered. The way they prove it's not registered is a search of their records. Thats the only way to prove you didn't register it.

[CAL.BAR]

They CAN prove it, they can search their records and say that there is no record.

Of course, you would be free to show them your record of registration that should rebut the presumption, but this seems like a very dangerous way to play it.

Of course. I am by no means advocating that tact, merely giving the full story as I know it.

[dwtt]

An associate has told me that he possesses an Arsenal SLR-95 AK, which is banned by name. He gave me a timeframe in which he purchased it (93-94) but is not sure whether he had registered it or not as he has traveled throughout the country on military orders.

1. how can he find out if he had infact registered it as an AW?

2. If possible, how can he register it as an AW...or has that timeframe been missed?

Thank you for your informed responses.

This doesn't make sense to me. The Roos-Roberti ban was passed in 1989, so how was he able to buy a gun that was banned by name in 1993-1994?
That's like buying a HK-93 or a FN FAL in CA in 1993. Did he buy it out of state in 1993-94?

[ke6guj]

This doesn't make sense to me. The Roos-Roberti ban was passed in 1989, so how was he able to buy a gun that was banned by name in 1993-1994?

SLR's weren't banned in 89, they were name-banned in 2000. I bought mine in the late 90's and registered during the 2000 registration period.

[stix213]

If he doesn't remember if he registered it then he didn't register it.

[dwtt]

SLR's weren't banned in 89, they were name-banned in 2000. I bought mine in the late 90's and registered during the 2000 registration period.

Oh yes, that little incident about what constituted a series.

[redcliff]

Back in '88 for the named ban I had to actually take all my named rifles to the police department to have them reviewed for registration.

I'm not sure why you got singled out for special treatment but the rest of us just sent in the form back in 1989. No trips to the police department needed.

[bohoki]

a while ago i called the doj to get a confirmation letter for my mak90 and things they sent it to the address on the registration but i never moved from my bunker

[BKinzey]

... Back in '88 for the named ban I had to actually take all my named rifles to the police department to have them reviewed for registration. ....

I didn't have to do that, just sent in the registration form.

Trust me on this, nobody forgets paying the Man for fingerprints....which was required to register an AW back then.

I must have forgot because I don't remember having fingerprints taken for a RAW.