bad experience with instructed milling vendor

[JTecalo]

Incorrect milling/drilling the FIRST time is what killed the lower.
If it was milled/drilled correctly, it never would have needed to be reworked.

I think Randall nailed it.

Whose hands were on the controls, the instructor's or the student's?

Jim

[gemini1]

Yes I plan to . I will schedule something with him. I really appreciate him helping me. This shows really good character.

Is the Dr in? well even if he's not, he has capable people working with/for him. I did my 308 80% and was professionally guided every step of the way by his colleague. And I just read that the good Dr now has a place in Santa Clara for us bay area folks, so less travel time for us!

[russ69]

....A firearm is the simply the wrong project to start learning manual milling techniques, even with a jig.

Yes, a firearm is a poor choice for a first time machine shop project. In school they usually start with very simple projects. Like filing a square cube or just drilling a hole. 80% lowers are really for guys that have the knowledge, skills and access to a full machine shop.

[tal3nt]

I've been buying and building a bunch of cheap, random, no name, machine shop 7075t 80%ers from low itrader folks here on CG with 100% luck so far..

[BroncoBob]

Bummer but you have a great offer from Dr. D

[eagershooter]

Go see the Dr!

[JL_Billet]

It looks like the holes were drilled about .03" too far forward and the pocket, well that thing is FUBAR. The blue prints for the pocket size and location are easy to find on the internet, there really is no excuse for this large of a mistake.

[Deadbolt]

this one :



bums me out. I have no solution, but im posting to offer my condolences and interest that this situation is resolved in your favor sir.

[BrassCase]

I don't know Dr. Death but he has a great rep.

I bought 2 anodized lowers from DIY Armory and milled with CNC mill guy. They came out perfect! My 2 PSA uppers dropped in place without any free play. My LPKs fit without issue. You can get great results with an 80.

[fevillago]

Just like he said Dr Death kept his word and gave me a free 308 80% with free CNC and milling instructions.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/fvillago/20130929_162757.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/fvillago/20130929_162852.jpg

I also bought a 556 80% so my 308 had a little brother:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/fvillago/20130929_162732.jpg

I definitely recommend anyone to go to him. He is very friendly and truly offers satisfaction guaranteed unlike another vendor that promotes this but does not really do it.

Visit Dr. Death as his 2 locations:
SAC:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=811407&highlight=dr+death

San Jose:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=811602&highlight=dr+death

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=805080&highlight=dr+death

[RangerAJ]

Go see the Dr. He and his colleague are knowledgeable and helpful.

[sigstroker]

OP's risk was using an unknown machinist (and I use the term machinist very loosely) to complete his lower.
Use a qualified machinist with good equipment and you most certainly can achieve the same quality work as the lower manufacturer, in some cases better.
You wouldn't believe the crap I've seen and had to rework in recent 80% lowers.
I prefer TM for my 80% lowers, always GTG.

That might be a bit of an exaggeration. The machiners I've checked with don't even use finish reamers for the pin holes, they just use drill bits.

[edgerly779]

Looks like a terrible drill press and dremel/ router job on deadbolts lower.

[ar15barrels]

See a Dr.

You get Cnc'd then Drilled And Reamed !!!

Drilling and reaming should be done before the fire control pocket is cut.

[mobbology]

wow glad I found this thread! Dr. Death you are one cool dude!