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  • #16
    AceGirlsHusband
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 2651

    Originally posted by 1lostinspace
    Years ago in a galaxy far away when 1lostinspace was a noob I wonder what the best round for my AR and will it jam with some dirt on it? We have wondered and assumed a few things. Well over ten years later with multiple weapon under my belt can tell you this.
    The AR 15 is far more reliable then its given credit for! I have had more AKs break and malfunction then my ARs! Now I am not saying AK aren't reliable my Siagas and other AKs are top notch but there are a lot of company's selling junk out there. Lancaster,AZEX and the worse so far Ironglad! Back on track how reliable is an AR?



    Not bad!

    My best friend is a 20+ year USMC vet with tours in Panama and multiple Iraq not to mention training all over the world. He is a purple recipient with 109 confirmed kills 87 with an artillery strike.He took part in taking Fallujah and has seen a lot!
    So one day I asked "how reliable was your M16?" He replied the only time I can recall having an issue was that it was so cold that the bolt froze stuck! Then stopping power got brought up and his exact words were " everyone either I shot or other Marines did was down!" Even in cars and at longer distances about 300m or 327 yards. He also mentioned one of the reasons people complain about 5.56 stopping power is due to not having a good zero!
    He said I am sure it could be better but seemed to have a lethal effect!
    Well guys there you have it coming from the real deal and not some armchair commando in his stained underwear Hope this helps.

    http://youtu.be/PGgojSI62pI
    43 years ago, when using A1's with M193, when we aimed and hit, Charlie was generally DRT.

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    • #17
      hambam105
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7083

      Yep. You're week-end plans do get changed when some Marine or GI puts a m193 thru your lungs.

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      • #18
        Sunday
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2010
        • 5574

        The AR/ M16/m4 is one of the best rifle designs ever made. Not perfect and nothing ever is.
        California's politicians and unionized government employees are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels look like a Girl Scout Troop in comparison.

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        • #19
          Sunday
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2010
          • 5574

          Originally posted by hambam105
          Yep. You're week-end plans do get changed when some Marine or GI puts a m193 thru your lungs.
          M855 is now used.
          California's politicians and unionized government employees are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels look like a Girl Scout Troop in comparison.

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          • #20
            hambam105
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7083

            I always get it confused...is it M855 or M885..oh well, glad they did because I hear the m193s just bounce-off the BGs nowdays.

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            • #21
              1lostinspace
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2006
              • 7848

              Originally posted by hambam105
              I always get it confused...is it M855 or M885..oh well, glad they did because I hear the m193s just bounce-off the BGs nowdays.
              M855A1 is the newest round
              Its made out of hippie snake oil but lead free.
              There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

              PUREMMA
              MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY

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