LEO's & Ca compliant 10rd

[Dano3467]

This question has surfaced before me, and thought I'd ask here.
In Ca are LEO under same rules as citizen's in Ca regarding compliant side arms and low capacity mags during off duty carry ?
( exempted Grandfathered of course @ this time )

And when off duty, are they a citizen first and LEO second.
Or dose this not apply, to LEO's ?

And if so, when retired do they have to comply w/these requirements if all there fire arms were purchased after these hand gun/or rifle where ban ?

And this , if were required at some point to turn over all over ten round mags, will they also fall under this at retirement ?

Inquiring minds want to know...

[TeddyBallgame]

the Calgun LEO's forum would probably get you the quickest and most accurate answer to those questions

[SkyStorm82]

Shhhhhh.....I can hear the stampede coming.

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

This question has surfaced before me, and thought I'd ask here.
In Ca are LEO under same rules as citizen's in Ca regarding compliant side arms and low capacity mags during off duty carry ?
( exempted Grandfathered of course @ this time )

And when off duty, are they a citizen first and LEO second.
Or dose this not apply, to LEO's ?

And if so, when retired do they have to comply w/these requirements if all there fire arms were purchased after these hand gun/or rifle where ban ?

And this , if were required at some point to turn over all over ten round mags, will they also fall under this at retirement ?

Inquiring minds want to know...

They are allowed to possess and carry standard cap mags on and off duty.

Ca LEO's under 830.1 and 830.2 (ie Police, Sheriffs, CHP & others) have state Peace Officer powers on and off duty. With some agencies they are encouraged just be a good witness and to avoid off duty incidents except in cases where death or great bodily injury is a probability.

Under current laws they can continue to possess standard cap mags just like anyone else, after retirement. Officers are not allowed to retain AW's registered while they were a Peace Officer after retirement.

[tonyxcom]

As far as I know...

The 10 rnd limit on handguns does not apply to police officers on or off duty.

The 10 rnd limit does apply on their personally owned rifles that isn't their duty rifle or RAW. For example, officer's AR15 that he doesn't use for work = 10 rnd. Officers personally owned RAW that he uses for work, no limit. As such he can legally own rifle magazines with a capacity greater than 10.

There are some bills that might change one or both of the above upon retirement.

[Untamed1972]

A Level 1 POST certified CA LEO has full LEO authority 24/7 whether he is on duty or not. However policy varies by Dept. as to what sort of actions he should undertake while off duty.

[jbolton]

i think thats a good idea that they can have high cap mags because the majority of them cant hit $h!t so they need all the rounds they can carry.

lol

[hellayella]

As far as I know...

The 10 rnd limit on handguns does not apply to police officers on or off duty.

The 10 rnd limit does apply on their personally owned rifles that isn't their duty rifle or RAW. For example, officer's AR15 that he doesn't use for work = 10 rnd. Officers personally owned RAW that he uses for work, no limit. As such he can legally own rifle magazines with a capacity greater than 10.

There are some bills that might change one or both of the above upon retirement.

in their off duty, the law applies to their personal firearms

[tonyxcom]

Not on handguns, unless their agency has specific guidelines. Why do you think a LEO can walk into a store and purchase standard capacity magazines?

They are exempt from the 10rnd limit on handguns thats why.

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Not on handguns, unless their agency has specific guidelines. Why do you think a LEO can walk into a store and purchase standard capacity magazines?

They are exempt from the 10rnd limit on handguns thats why.

They are exempt for long guns also as long as they are not using them in a bullet button rifle. There's no distinction. Remember possession and even purchase is not illegal yet. The only difference between LEO and Joe Blow is the LEO can continue to buy standard mags.

[tonyxcom]

They are exempt for long guns also as long as they are not using them in a bullet button rifle. There's no distinction. Remember possession and even purchase is not illegal yet. The only difference between LEO and Joe Blow is the LEO can continue to buy standard mags.

Thanks for that clarification.

[RickD427]

They are allowed to possess and carry standard cap mags on and off duty.

Ca LEO's under 830.1 and 830.2 (ie Police, Sheriffs, CHP & others) have state Peace Officer powers on and off duty. With some agencies they are encouraged just be a good witness and to avoid off duty incidents except in cases where death or great bodily injury is a probability.

Under current laws they can continue to possess standard cap mags just like anyone else, after retirement. Officers are not allowed to retain AW's registered while they were a Peace Officer after retirement.

^^^THIS^^^

Additionally, the ability to acquire large-capacity magazines and off-roster weapons goes away upon retirement.

The Attorney General has issued an opinion that officers must surrender AW's acquired using the special LEO-only process upon retirement. However that opinion fails to identify any section of law the officer would be in if they failed to surrender the weapon. In other words, its a "toothless tiger" awaiting a court decision. Officers that registered their AW's under the coventional process may keep them following retirement.

[RickD427]

As far as I know...

The 10 rnd limit on handguns does not apply to police officers on or off duty.

The 10 rnd limit does apply on their personally owned rifles that isn't their duty rifle or RAW. For example, officer's AR15 that he doesn't use for work = 10 rnd. Officers personally owned RAW that he uses for work, no limit. As such he can legally own rifle magazines with a capacity greater than 10.

There are some bills that might change one or both of the above upon retirement.

Sir,

There is no relevance to the officer being on-duty or off-duty. What matters is whether the weapon is a registered AW, or not.

If the weapon is a registered AW, then it may be used with large-capacity magazines regardless of duty status.

[tonyxcom]

I don't think I said anything about being on a off duty with regards to hi capacity mags in a RAW. But I did assume that any RAW that the officer owned was a result of his LEO status, as such, and I guess depending on agency rules, likely the only RAW the officer owned.

Thats why I said "For example, officer's AR15 that he doesn't use for work = 10 rnd. Officers personally owned RAW that he uses for work, no limit."

In which the officers AR15 that he doesn't use for work isn't a RAW.

[RickD427]

They are exempt for long guns also as long as they are not using them in a bullet button rifle. There's no distinction. Remember possession and even purchase is not illegal yet. The only difference between LEO and Joe Blow is the LEO can continue to buy standard mags.

Sir,

Please note the California DOJ's position that the purchase of large-capacity magazines is a felony. They've explained this as being due to the combined effect of Penal Code sections 31 and 32310.

Here's a link to the DOJ website FAQ stating their position the purchase of a large capacity magazine is illegal:

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#9