So today at Dicks Sporting Goods

[Artema]

You know there are exceptions to this right? I can buy a gun as a gift all day long for anybody I want.. as long as they are not prohibited.

I didn't know that. How do you fill out the form for that?

[PubChef]

They are building a Dicks here in Pleasant Hill. We had a Sports Chalet open a couple years ago or so not too far away and now its closed. The only places that have firearms besides the LGS is Sports Authority and Big 5. SA has a big section for hunting.
If Dicks doesn't have any firearms at all or hunting stuff. It will fold too, just like Sport Chalet did.

I was at sports authority over on concord ave. They are remodeling and when they are done, Hunting and Fishing sections are gone. he said corporate said not enough business is coming from it.

They had all the fishing stuff 50% off and hunting section (excluding guns and ammo) for 20% off.

[Ninety]

I didn't know that. How do you fill out the form for that?

Look at the explanation for 11a on the 4th page

http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

[XDSTEVE]

IT'LL cost them. Ive never been in a Dicks before and just reading all these posts i never will.

[cigardog]

My girlfriend got denied at Dick's in Fresno a few days ago when trying to buy a shotgun as a present for her brother (who is not a prohibited person). She called him to verify the model he wanted, Dick's overheard, and that was it.

She ended up ordering the same model from an LGS and got a better deal.

[high_revs]

but isn't this a straw purchase then? brother isn't filling/signing the paperwork as the "owner" of the firearm while someone else just pays, no? and he wasn't physically present there either.

from http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Tr...Family_Members



A perilous work-around
Brother directly to brother is not legal. Child to parent, parent to other child follows the law.
i. e. Staying entirely within the letter of the law, Abel may accomplish a transfer to his brother Cain by first transferring the firearm to either parent (Adam or Eve), and then the parent would transfer the firearm to their other son, Cain.

My girlfriend got denied at Dick's in Fresno a few days ago when trying to buy a shotgun as a present for her brother (who is not a prohibited person). She called him to verify the model he wanted, Dick's overheard, and that was it.

She ended up ordering the same model from an LGS and got a better deal.

[cigardog]

No, a gift is perfectly legal according to the instructions on the 4473. See Ninety's post above for the link.

If she was taking his money and buying it for him, then it would be a straw purchase. But she was buying a gift for him with her own money so according to the 4473 she is considered the actual transferee/buyer.

Details are in the instructions to question 11.a. on the back of the 4473. It specifically addresses the question of a non prohibited person buying a firearm as a present for another non prohibited person.

I'd cut and paste but I'm on my phone and that's a little tedious right now.

[Artema]

Plus if he is in another state you can give whatever you want to him.

[Fishslayer]

would love to read the OP

please use paragraph breaks

eyes are too old to sort through a block like that

I didn't make it far.

Cliff's?

[PMN]

Dicks have a Facebook page, Twitter ETC? Id start posting on those pages. Get the word out.

[jeremiah12]

Yesterday, as I was returning from picking up my gen 4 G26 from Digital Instincts Firearms (http://www.digital-instincts.com) I was passing by the Dicks in Dublin. My bladder was full due to the high capacity, 44 oz, soda I had been sipping on since I left home to get my new toy out of jail.

I stopped in to use the restroom and then looked at gun stuff. I was not impressed. I lot of it was overpriced and the selection was poor.

I figured I left them an appropriate review and did not feel bad leaving without buying anything.

[strongpoint]

No, a gift is perfectly legal according to the instructions on the 4473. See Ninety's post above for the link.

If she was taking his money and buying it for him, then it would be a straw purchase. But she was buying a gift for him with her own money so according to the 4473 she is considered the actual transferee/buyer.

Details are in the instructions to question 11.a. on the back of the 4473. It specifically addresses the question of a non prohibited person buying a firearm as a present for another non prohibited person.

I'd cut and paste but I'm on my phone and that's a little tedious right now.

i got you covered (paragraph breaks and emphasis added):

Question 11.a. Actual Transferee/Buyer: For purposes of this form, you are the actual transferee/buyer if you are purchasing the firearm for yourself or otherwise acquiring the firearm for yourself (e.g., redeeming the firearm from pawn/retrieving it from consignment, firearm raffle winner). You are also the actual transferee/buyer if you are legitimately purchasing the firearm as a gift for a third party.

[Ritchie8719]

A perilous work-around
Brother directly to brother is not legal. Child to parent, parent to other child follows the law.
i. e. Staying entirely within the letter of the law, Abel may accomplish a transfer to his brother Cain by first transferring the firearm to either parent (Adam or Eve), and then the parent would transfer the firearm to their other son, Cain.

Using the up/down family exemption in combination to avoid using A FFL is not legal.

[PaintItBlack]

Seriously? You agree that they don't deserve our business because of what they did after Sandy Hook, yet in the same sentence you admit that you don't have the backbone to stand behind that. Does anyone else wonder why we're in the shape we're in as a state/country???

That is exactly what I was thinking when I read that.
Principles and dignity go out the window if it can save you $50.
How depressing.

[Mr.EBR]

Yeah thats a key thing if one person handles the weapon then someone else pays. But seriously its a freakn relative they need a little common sense here. Thats why the whole situation here in California is just retarded and just a huge headache. But you all knew that already lol.

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