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  • Wojtek
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Oct 2012
    • 1472

    Identify this Garand

    I bought this rifle on a whim but the overall setup is throwing me for a loop. It is chambered in .308, the receiver is a Springfield Armory receiver from April 1941, the stock is period correct and it accepts a magazine (unknown as of yet but I assume it is an M14/M1A magazine). The gas system looks like it is from an M14 as well. The only gun that looks even close to this setup is the experimental T44E2 but I highly doubt it is a T44E2.

    What say you, Calgunners? Let's see some opinions and facts.



    Gas block, sight and barrel.



    Topside



    From the bottom



    Receiver side.

    http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b488/lebellous/th_20130730_123935_zps760047c8.jpg[/IMG]


    Here is a link to the T44E2.

    http://ww3.rediscov.com/springar/VFP...ATABASE=BIBLIO,
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  • #2
    Cheezle56
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 938

    Maybe a Garand with BM 59 parts in it? http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=53220

    I understand M14 parts resemble but will not go into an M1, but the BM59 very much resembles an M14, but is built off a modified M1 receiver.
    Looking at the pictures and looking online for the T44, I noticed the stock on an actual T44 is angled/ slanted/ different around the magwell compared to your M1, but the BM 59 magwell resembles your rifles.
    Just look at the pictures in the link and see if it resembles anything you have as I'm not the most familiar with the M1 and its derivatives.
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    • #3
      TRICKSTER
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2008
      • 12438

      There are a few people, present and past that do mag conversions on Garands.
      They are rebarreled to 308 because it is easier to do the conversions using BM59 or M14 Mags.


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      • #4
        Untamed1972
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2009
        • 17579

        I think even CMP is now offering Garands rechambered in .308 aren't they?
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        • #5
          Wojtek
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Oct 2012
          • 1472

          This doesn't look like a simple rechambering. The gas system looks entirely different, as in not original Garand. I'll take photos of the internals in a bit.
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          • #6
            Orlando
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1827

            Bubba got ahold of that one.

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            • #7
              Spiggy
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2006
              • 8688

              BM59? BM62?
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              • #8
                Orlando
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1827

                Originally posted by Spiggy
                BM59? BM62?
                No neither one, commercially built. Probably in someones basememnt

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                • #9
                  mosinnagantm9130
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2009
                  • 8782

                  If you post this in the C&R forum you might get more responses.
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                  • #10
                    gun toting monkeyboy
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 6820

                    That is an odd one. I am stumped. It looks like somebody's project. Does it work?

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                    • #11
                      BKinzey
                      OT Banned
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2009
                      • 4390

                      Do you have bigger pics? For some reason those are very small and the link is to a pic the same size.
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                      • #12
                        Wojtek
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1472

                        Here are photos detailing the difference between a standard Garand vs. the weird Garand and the magazine catch.

                        I tested both a BM59 and an M14 mag last night and I am happy to report that it is an M14 capable Garand.





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                        • #13
                          Wojtek
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 1472

                          Originally posted by BKinzey
                          Do you have bigger pics? For some reason those are very small and the link is to a pic the same size.




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                          • #14
                            Wojtek
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1472

                            No insights other than a very strange/advanced conversion?
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                            • #15
                              Orlando
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1827

                              Many of these mag type conversions were done years ago, some with welded receivers. This rifle is just another version of one

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