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  • NOTABIKER
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 7635

    lever action in 7.62-39 ?

    i am thinking of getting a western style lever action . i have a lot of SKS ammo and would like shooting up what is cheap and plentiful. it is all about ammo these days.
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    bruss01
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 5336

    Pointy bullets do not work in a tube magazine because of the possibility of what is called a "chain-fire" where the tip of the bullet behind taps the primer of the bullet ahead under recoil. If even one of the rounds in the tube has a touchy primer, they ALL go off, rupturing the tube and doing all kinds of nasty things to the gun and the shooter.

    Box magazine leverguns are exempt from this consideration, such as the Remington 1895 which is frequently chambered in 30-06. However, I'm unaware of any model that is chambered in (or convertible to) intermediate cartridges such as x39.
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    • #3
      Beelzy
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2008
      • 9224

      No such animal.
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      • #4
        Beetle Bailey
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2004
        • 2620

        You would be better off getting a lever action in .357 magnum. You can shoot .38 special out of it as well.
        "All bad precedents began as justifiable measures." Julius Caesar

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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          Originally posted by bruss01
          Pointy bullets do not work in a tube magazine because of the possibility of what is called a "chain-fire" where the tip of the bullet behind taps the primer of the bullet ahead under recoil. If even one of the rounds in the tube has a touchy primer, they ALL go off, rupturing the tube and doing all kinds of nasty things to the gun and the shooter.

          Box magazine leverguns are exempt from this consideration, such as the Remington 1895 which is frequently chambered in 30-06. However, I'm unaware of any model that is chambered in (or convertible to) intermediate cartridges such as x39.
          I think it would be possible to rebarrel a Savage 99 in 7.62x39 and put a block in the mag to account for the shorter cartridges.
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          • #6
            NIB
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 549

            I think I've read that the ballistics of a 30-30 are about the same as 7.62x39.

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            • #7
              855R
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 365

              I know it's not a lever which are cool I have a rossi m92 in .357 but these are real attractive to me as well and it's 7.62x39 which you have a lot of right?
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              • #8
                NOTABIKER
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2012
                • 7635

                Originally posted by 855R
                I know it's not a lever which are cool I have a rossi m92 in .357 but these are real attractive to me as well and it's 7.62x39 which you have a lot of right?
                http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-527-carbine/
                sweet rifle, thanks for the info

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                • #9
                  bruss01
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 5336

                  Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                  I think it would be possible to rebarrel a Savage 99 in 7.62x39 and put a block in the mag to account for the shorter cartridges.
                  That's a sweet idea. It should be feasible to do that if the bolt face can be matched up to the cartridge:



                  The 1895 as well as the later Model 1899 and early Model 99 used a rotary magazine to hold the cartridges.[6] The rotating magazine uses a spring-loaded spool with grooves to hold the cartridges. The Savage 1899 took advantage of the spool to include a counter to indicate how many shots are left. The Model 99 continued using this system for many years, until its replacement with a detachable magazine.[7]

                  The rotating magazine design allowed the rifle to be one of the first lever-action rifles to use spitzer bullets. Previous lever-action rifles used tubular magazines, which placed cartridges of ammunition end to end. The pointed tips of a spitzer bullet would touch the primer of the cartridge in front of it, possibly causing an accidental discharge. Another novel safety feature was that upon cocking the rifle, a small pin would protrude above the top receiver to indicate the rifle was cocked and ready to fire.[8]

                  During World War I, the Montreal Home Guard was issued Model 99 rifles in "musket" form, which incorporated a bayonet lug and military-style stock.[9] It is known as the Model 99D Musket. The Montreal Home Guard contract was for a total of 2,500 rifles, all of which are believed to have been delivered.[10] These rifles were chambered in .303 Savage, as altering the design for the Canadian standard .303 British Mk VII cartridge would have resulted in an unacceptable delay in delivery.[11] Guardsmen were responsible for purchasing their own rifles,[9] and had the option of having their names stamped on the stock.[12] Many also chose to have their names engraved on the left side of the receiver.[13]

                  During its long production history the Savage 99 was chambered at one time or another for .303 Savage, .30-30 Winchester, .300 Savage, .25-35 Winchester, .250 Savage (also called the .250-3000 Savage, as the first commercial round to produce a velocity of over 3,000 ft/s (910 m/s)), .22 Hi Power, .22-250 Remington, .243 Winchester, .308 Winchester, .358 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, .284 Winchester, .38-55 Winchester, .32-40 Ballard, .375 Winchester and, by special order with a replacement barrel, .410 bore shotshell as a single-shot.
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                  • #10
                    mark501w
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1699

                    .30-30 is a better cartridge.

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                    • #11
                      Bruce
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2183

                      Originally posted by bruss01
                      Pointy bullets do not work in a tube magazine because of the possibility of what is called a "chain-fire" where the tip of the bullet behind taps the primer of the bullet ahead under recoil. If even one of the rounds in the tube has a touchy primer, they ALL go off, rupturing the tube and doing all kinds of nasty things to the gun and the shooter.

                      Box magazine leverguns are exempt from this consideration, such as the Remington Winchester 1895 which is frequently chambered in 30-06. However, I'm unaware of any model that is chambered in (or convertible to) intermediate cartridges such as x39.
                      Fixed.

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                      • #12
                        emsalex
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 550

                        Originally posted by NOTABIKER
                        i am thinking of getting a western style lever action . i have a lot of SKS ammo and would like shooting up what is cheap and plentiful. it is all about ammo these days.
                        Originally posted by Beetle Bailey
                        You would be better off getting a lever action in .357 magnum. You can shoot .38 special out of it as well.
                        Originally posted by NIB
                        I think I've read that the ballistics of a 30-30 are about the same as 7.62x39.
                        Originally posted by mark501w
                        .30-30 is a better cartridge.

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                        • #13
                          retiredAFcop
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2108

                          Post an ad seeking to trade your ammo fro ammo that will work in whatever lever action you choose.

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                          • #14
                            deckhandmike
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 8325

                            30-30 is not a better round. It's expensive.

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                            • #15
                              Spaceghost
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2006
                              • 5772

                              All right, you want some lever action, action? Sell your surplus ammo and buy a level action pistol caliber. Learn to cast and you can shoot forever, and only buy powder and primers once you have the equipment. Maybe 500 bucks. You were planning on buying a new gun anyways.

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