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  • Thedomsaww
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 258

    Microstamping? something that i dont get.

    So latley there has been a few articles in the news about microstamping. How it will hold gun owners accountable for the bullets they shoot. The articles state that a small ID can be printed onto the firing pin so when it strikes it leaves an imprint and can be traced back to the owner.

    Now where i have issue with these articles is that they state the imprint or id will be on the "bullet". Which is impossible, the firing pin impacts the primer in the cartridge. It never comes in contact with the actual projectile.

    So in order to get the ID from the stamp LE would have to have the casing. If there are no casings found then the microstamp is useless, no matter how many bullets (projectiles) are pulled from the scene.

    I understand it is more likley another attempt to ban guns do to the cost of making the firing pin just in CA etc. But to the masses that have no understanding of guns or ammo this could sound like a good idea, to have bullets with id's on them. When in reality the bullets will just be bullets. You could bypass the microstamp if you just have a case catcher on your gun and dont lose the casings. If there are no casings on scene there is no way to tie your gun to the shooting besides any "old fashioned" ways they already have.

    My 2 cents.
  • #2
    vliberatore
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2011
    • 10055

    People are talking/writing/legislating without knowing how things work. Nothing new.
    Originally posted by fighterpilot562
    Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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    • #3
      Bainter1212
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2013
      • 5936

      Yes and 3 seconds with a piece of emery cloth removes any stamping on a firing pin. This is never gonna work....

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      • #4
        nanoc
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 569

        Agree, its not gonna help solve crimes and will just add needless costs. Also doesn't really work on revolvers becasue the casings stay in the gun.

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        • #5
          russ69
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2009
          • 9348

          Originally posted by vliberatore
          People are talking/writing/legislating without knowing how things work. Nothing new.
          Like I say, a bunch of high school students could do a better job.
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          • #6
            xxINKxx
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 4289

            For the bullet to get a mark, I read in an article about a laser engraving of some sort. They will engrave a marking into the end of the barrel so the bullet gets a distinct mark as it exits the barrel.

            It's all just talk. Because the Defence has good claims why it won't work because anyone can file it off with a diamond file, parts will wear and so will the mark, or can be replaced very easily. Also police are except for some reason.
            Last edited by xxINKxx; 06-13-2013, 8:58 AM.
            "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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            • #7
              madjack956
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 2617

              What worries me more is if you dont pick up all your cases. What can your info do in the wrong hands.
              Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.org

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              • #8
                calwoodbutcher
                Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 260

                Let us try this with a liberal legisture reasoning. Someone goes down and buys a box of 9mm at Wallyworld. They are sold box number 12345. Each bullet in the box is engraved with the 12345 number. They show their ID, are fingerprinted and logged into a bullet registry database. A murder takes place 2 weeks later. The victim was shot dead by a 9mm bullet engraved with the 12345. Detectives hit the database and go pick up the purchaser for murder in record time. There are just too many problems with this to list.
                An Armed Society is a Polite Society!

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                • #9
                  Thedomsaww
                  Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 258

                  yes i agree with all of you.

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                  • #10
                    Nick Justice
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 1985

                    Does putting a license plate on your car stop it from getting stolen?

                    It's a form of idol worship. "All hail technology! We will be saved by that which we have wrought with our hands!"

                    May as well put a little golden calf on your lawn and expect it to magically stop evil.
                    It doesn't matter how scary, ugly, uncomfortable, or inconvenient self defense can be. Like it or not, you will never, ever be relieved of your duty and responsibility to defend your life, your family, your country and your freedom.

                    How much ammo do I need? Enough to last me the rest of my life, and then lot more for later.

                    The government does not come knocking at your door. It comes knocking down your door.

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                    • #11
                      SilverTauron
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5699

                      The entire point of the law is to ban handguns by technological proxy.

                      Criminals predominantly carry stolen weapons,typically of the .25 and .32 caliber variety according to LE statistics .You may as well prevent domestic violence by making marriage illegal.
                      The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                      The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                      -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                      The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                      • #12
                        j411701
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 729

                        Originally posted by russ69
                        Like I say, a bunch of high school students could do a better job.
                        Like I say, a bunch of elementary school students could do a better job

                        Fixed it for you
                        These folks writing the gun laws are weapons grade stupid

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                        • #13
                          Hoshnasi
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2515

                          If this happens, revolvers will be all the rage again!
                          Come to Flavor Country...

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                          You don't like homosexuality, don't let some dude stick his tab A into your slot B.

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                          • #14
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                            Admin and Poltergeist
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 44646

                            Originally posted by SilverTauron
                            The entire point of the law is to ban handguns by technological proxy.
                            This.

                            Please do not try to understand laws that mention guns as really having anything to do with guns - they're always a vehicle to appear to be 'doing something about a problem' so the legislator might be re-elected.

                            Doesn't matter if they're wrong or if it does not/cannot work the way they say.
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                            • #15
                              Carbuncle
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 80

                              Originally posted by xxINKxx
                              so the bullet gets a distinct mark as it exits the barrel.
                              Isn't that what happens anyways when you fire a gun?

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