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  • #16
    SilverTauron
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 5699

    I realize this isn't the same course of fire, but here's a pic of my 92FS and target from 25 yards away . 2 mags , 15 rounds apiece . I'd imagine my Hogue Pearl grips are slicker then anything in the DoD inventory.



    Distance.




    For the long range stuff, here's what helped me out. Focus in on the front sight. Your gun/sight picture is GOING to move relative to the target. There's no human way shooting offhand that your weapon will NOT have some side to side movement. The key is to tune that out and focus on the fundamentals; front sight and trigger press, period.

    At that range its possible you won't see much of the target behind the sights, so being able to focus on the front sight is critical. My 92FS shoots point of aim ,meaning the round goes where the front sight is aimed. At 25 yards you'll want to hold slightly high at that distance. Its hard to explain, but for me to hit the center of the silhouette above I "aimed" for the head.

    The last time I shot at this distance I held right on the center and got abdominal hits for a reward.

    Last words of advice: take your time, don't drink coffee or shaky stimulants, use good breath control, and a slow press to the rear is absolutely critical.

    Good luck, and let us know how it turns out!
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    • #17
      The sarge
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 518

      This whole course of fire is about to change. My understanding is its already been approved by HQMC. This new course will have a different target and will be much more tactically oriented and focus on close engagement defensive situations. I imagine it will be implemented in the new fiscal year.

      As far as the durability of the 92fs its pretty good. I have seen cracked slides and other failures but for the amount of abuse they take I'd say they are doing well. My current issued one is quite well worn but can still punch paper better than me. I do great at 25yds and blow it with the rapid drills. I end up with a bunch of 6 and 7 hits instead of 10's. always end up about 5 points shy of expert.

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      • #18
        Germz
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2013
        • 4691

        Originally posted by SilverTauron
        Focus in on the front sight.... The key is to tune that out and focus on the fundamentals; front sight and trigger press, period.

        At that range its possible you won't see much of the target behind the sights, so being able to focus on the front sight is critical. My 92FS shoots point of aim ,meaning the round goes where the front sight is aimed. At 25 yards you'll want to hold slightly high at that distance. Its hard to explain, but for me to hit the center of the silhouette above I "aimed" for the head.

        The last time I shot at this distance I held right on the center and got abdominal hits for a reward.
        ^This. I assumed that was the fundamentals to all shooting. but NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER look focus at your target. ALWAYS look focus at on your front sight. you shouldnt even see where your shots are landing.

        with such a short sight radius, you must COMPLETELY put faith in your ability to execute proper sight alignment / sight picture and stead trigger control.

        personally me, I hold on edge with the bottom of the x ring to hit center and top of the 10 ring.
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        • #19
          Thefeeder
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 5007

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          Is qualifing done shooting one handed or two ?

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          • #20
            SOAR79
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2943

            Awesome advice!

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            • #21
              SOAR79
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 2943

              Originally posted by Thefeeder
              Is qualifing done shooting one handed or two ?
              I think it's all 2 handed

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              • #22
                jurrd87
                Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 227

                Originally posted by SOAR79
                I think it's all 2 handed
                Two.

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                • #23
                  voiceofreason
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3785

                  At 25 yards shooting 9mm, there should be NO holdover whatsoever.

                  should be point of aim, point of impact
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                  • #24
                    SOAR79
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2943

                    Thanks for all the help you guys!

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                    • #25
                      9mmepiphany
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 8075

                      Originally posted by voiceofreason
                      At 25 yards shooting 9mm, there should be NO holdover whatsoever.

                      should be point of aim, point of impact
                      That has been my experience too. It has held up when shooting a Beretta 92, SIG 226, Glock G19 and S&W M&P9. I just bisect the target where I want the rounds to impact and press the trigger
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                      • #26
                        Gun_Smoke
                        Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 225

                        If you want to replicate the USMC pistol qual make sure you use crappy ammo, wear the insides to right before they would fail, and cut the springs in the trigger so you randomly fire two rounds on accident.

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                        • #27
                          russ69
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 9348

                          If you guys are not in the service anymore, you should shoot the more challenging NRA National Match course. There is a division for military and retired military. An expert military score will be below the lowest ranked NM score. Step up and be challenged.
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                          • #28
                            SOAR79
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2943

                            Originally posted by Gun_Smoke
                            If you want to replicate the USMC pistol qual make sure you use crappy ammo, wear the insides to right before they would fail, and cut the springs in the trigger so you randomly fire two rounds on accident.
                            hahaha that doesn't sound fun at all!

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                            • #29
                              SOAR79
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2943

                              Originally posted by russ69
                              If you guys are not in the service anymore, you should shoot the more challenging NRA National Match course. There is a division for military and retired military. An expert military score will be below the lowest ranked NM score. Step up and be challenged.
                              If I can shoot expert consistently (let's say 5 times in a row) then I'll step up lol is there a specific website you use for the course set up you're talking about?

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