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  • SOAR79
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 2943

    USMC Pistol Qualification *Need some help*

    I looked through Calguns for answers and I also searched google.

    I found this info:
    Standard Marine Corps qualification course for the Beretta M9:

    1st stage - 25 yards, 15 rounds slow-fire, single action, in 10 minutes

    2nd stage - 7 yards, five strings of one round, starting from the low ready, one double action shot, like three seconds per string

    3rd stage - 7 yards, four strings, each string is two rounds, starting from the low ready, one double action shot and one single action shot, like five seconds per string

    4th stage - 15 yards, two strings, each string is six rounds, starting from the low ready, first round double action, then two rounds single action, hit slide-lock, reload and fire three more single action shots, 20 seconds per string

    Does anyone know which targets are used at each stage and what the point values are for the areas of the target????

    I know they add up to this:
    250 - 279 marksman
    280 - 304 sharpshooter
    305 - 350 expert

    I'm trying to replicate the Pistol Qualification with some friends since a few of us have 92FS pistols but I couldn't find good info online.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    If the info I found online is incorrect can someone correct it for me?
    Last edited by SOAR79; 06-11-2013, 12:27 AM.
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    jfifer
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 3205

    Ask in the service section of this forum

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    • #3
      SOAR79
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 2943

      I never knew there was such a section lol how do I find it?

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      • #4
        jfifer
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 3205

        Main page! Right below LEO section.

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        • #5
          rooster85
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 680

          Originally posted by SOAR79
          I never knew there was such a section lol how do I find it?
          calgunners in service.
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          • #6
            SOAR79
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2943

            Thanks!

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            • #7
              Germz
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Apr 2013
              • 4691

              Originally posted by SOAR79
              I looked through Calguns for answers and I also searched google.

              Does anyone know which targets are used at each stage and what the point values are for the areas of the target????

              I know they add up to this:
              250 - 279 marksman
              280 - 304 sharpshooter
              305 - 350 expert

              I'm trying to replicate the Pistol Qualification with some friends since a few of us have 92FS pistols but I couldn't find good info online.
              Any help would be greatly appreciated.
              If the info I found online is incorrect can someone correct it for me?

              Its a standard NRA 25 yard line slow fire target for all strings of fire pasted on a human silhouette

              x and 10 ring count as 10. then 9,8,7,6, 5 is anywhere on the paper not in a ring, 4 is anywhere on the silhouette not on paper.

              Your 4th relay info. heres a tip: i stick the mag in my strong hand cufflink and button it tight. makes for fast reloads but some frown upon that.

              345-400 - Expert
              305-344 - Sharpshooter
              285-304 - Marksman

              Advice:
              [a] bring a white out pen to qual and practice days. most berettas i've come across in the Marine Corps have the night sights worn off.
              [b] take your SWEET ***** TIME at the 25yrd line. 85% of people will finish in under 5 minutes and wonder why they dropped 10+ points.
              [c] bring a blinder, I used my neck gaiter and pulled it over half my face to cover my weak eye.
              [d] dont practice with gloves as you wont be able to wear them without penalty come qual day
              [e] speedloader really helps
              [f] bring talcom powder, those crappy beretta grips make your hands sweaty easily
              Last edited by Germz; 06-11-2013, 3:14 AM.
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                Germz
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2013
                • 4691

                Also, If you are active duty I'd head over to 13 area where the ISMIT is. they have VR beretta training. I practiced with that for a few days and got my average up to about a 376/400. hook them up with a free lunch and they'll more than likely let you play around for a bit. those guys are pretty cool that work there.
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                • #9
                  farmdogg
                  Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 105

                  Originally posted by Germz
                  Its a standard NRA 25 yard line slow fire target for all strings of fire pasted on a human silhouette

                  x and 10 ring count as 10. then 9,8,7,6, 5 is anywhere on the paper not in a ring, 4 is anywhere on the silhouette not on paper.

                  Your 4th relay info. heres a tip: i stick the mag in my strong hand cufflink and button it tight. makes for fast reloads but some frown upon that.

                  345-400 - Expert
                  305-344 - Sharpshooter
                  285-304 - Marksman

                  Advice:
                  [a] bring a white out pen to qual and practice days. most berettas i've come across in the Marine Corps have the night sights worn off.
                  [b] take your SWEET ***** TIME at the 25yrd line. 85% of people will finish in under 5 minutes and wonder why they dropped 10+ points.
                  [c] bring a blinder, I used my neck gaiter and pulled it over half my face to cover my weak eye.
                  [d] dont practice with gloves as you wont be able to wear them without penalty come qual day
                  [e] speedloader really helps
                  [f] bring talcom powder, those crappy beretta grips make your hands sweaty easily
                  great advice during slow fire i would actually put the weapon down on the bench and relax, sadly i was shooting the clapped out 1911 good luck.

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                  • #10
                    tnlrat37
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2166

                    Looks like there still using the same qual course I used 20 years ago. Not sure if u are but I have naturally very shaky hands so pistol qual was actually chalenging for me to get expert. Funny story is I was a PMI and coach and one hidden secret we used on the people who were horrible shots or naturally shaky or nervous all the time was to get drunk the night before qual and you'd be hungover qual day, it would actually steady the hands, and nerves wouldn't be a problem. It worked for me and quite a few guys I coached. Be sure to try this before and see if it works for you, some people are more shaky hungover, worth a try if you have problems though, plus the Corps loves to shoot and drink so you get best of both worlds.
                    "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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                    • #11
                      rooster85
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 680

                      Originally posted by tnlrat37
                      Looks like there still using the same qual course I used 20 years ago. Not sure if u are but I have naturally very shaky hands so pistol qual was actually chalenging for me to get expert. Funny story is I was a PMI and coach and one hidden secret we used on the people who were horrible shots or naturally shaky or nervous all the time was to get drunk the night before qual and you'd be hungover qual day, it would actually steady the hands, and nerves wouldn't be a problem. It worked for me and quite a few guys I coached. Be sure to try this before and see if it works for you, some people are more shaky hungover, worth a try if you have problems though, plus the Corps loves to shoot and drink so you get best of both worlds.
                      That's still very much in use today.
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                      • #12
                        Germz
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 4691

                        Originally posted by farmdogg
                        great advice during slow fire i would actually put the weapon down on the bench and relax, sadly i was shooting the clapped out 1911 good luck.

                        clapped out? I way rather shoot the 1911's! so much less felt recoil!
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                        • #13
                          SOAR79
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2943

                          Originally posted by Germz
                          Its a standard NRA 25 yard line slow fire target for all strings of fire pasted on a human silhouette

                          x and 10 ring count as 10. then 9,8,7,6, 5 is anywhere on the paper not in a ring, 4 is anywhere on the silhouette not on paper.

                          Your 4th relay info. heres a tip: i stick the mag in my strong hand cufflink and button it tight. makes for fast reloads but some frown upon that.

                          345-400 - Expert
                          305-344 - Sharpshooter
                          285-304 - Marksman

                          Advice:
                          [a] bring a white out pen to qual and practice days. most berettas i've come across in the Marine Corps have the night sights worn off.
                          [b] take your SWEET ***** TIME at the 25yrd line. 85% of people will finish in under 5 minutes and wonder why they dropped 10+ points.
                          [c] bring a blinder, I used my neck gaiter and pulled it over half my face to cover my weak eye.
                          [d] dont practice with gloves as you wont be able to wear them without penalty come qual day
                          [e] speedloader really helps
                          [f] bring talcom powder, those crappy beretta grips make your hands sweaty easily
                          Great info! Thanks for all the help man!

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                          • #14
                            SOAR79
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2943

                            Originally posted by tnlrat37
                            Looks like there still using the same qual course I used 20 years ago. Not sure if u are but I have naturally very shaky hands so pistol qual was actually chalenging for me to get expert. Funny story is I was a PMI and coach and one hidden secret we used on the people who were horrible shots or naturally shaky or nervous all the time was to get drunk the night before qual and you'd be hungover qual day, it would actually steady the hands, and nerves wouldn't be a problem. It worked for me and quite a few guys I coached. Be sure to try this before and see if it works for you, some people are more shaky hungover, worth a try if you have problems though, plus the Corps loves to shoot and drink so you get best of both worlds.
                            hahaha hilarious!

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                            • #15
                              MrOrange
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2262

                              Bit off-topic, but how would you active guys say the Berettas are holding up? Are they all worn out and wobbly, or are they keeping their accuracy?

                              I only shot a borrowed one once in a match, 20+ years ago, but it would put them all in one raggedy hole at 7 yds and dinging a 6" plate at 25 was boringly predictable. I thought I had talked the guy into selling it to me, even bought a holster and other gear, then he changed his mind and decided he still wanted to carry it on duty as an LEO. Brothers, wadya gonna do?
                              I meant, it is my opinion that...






                              I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
                              I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
                              You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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