Put up or shut-up...

[m1371]

To each his own. If you don't think training is for you, fine. There is no need to belittle those who choose to practice a "non-traditional" martial art (gunfighting IS a martial art). Something to think about.

Nor is there a need to barge in with a "put up or shut" attitude which could be misconstrued in numerous different ways, as it apparently has been.

As Jeff R. commented earlier..... Nothing wrong with the type of training, just the way it was presented.

[MaceWindu]

Nor is there a need to barge in with a "put up or shut" attitude which could be misconstrued in numerous different ways, as it apparently has been.

As Jeff R. commented earlier..... Nothing wrong with the type of training, just the way it was presented.

I didn't realize that everyone here was so.....sensitive. If I hurt their "feelings" that was wrong...::snicker::

Mace

[Jeff Rambo]

Mace, it isn't about being sensitive it is more so the fact that you came off with an elitest attitude and that typically doesn't reel people in with stuff like this. Furthermore, serious shooters are always concerned about where they invest their money and if something seems questionable on top of having someone force feed it... that just does not work.

[30Cal]

I thought "Hanz and Franz" was good, but this is better

Ty

[eje]

It is legal for a non-resident to bring a AW into CA for the purposes of competition. There is a competition involved in the course.

Honestly, is an informal shoot-off during a tactical rifle course the same thing as "an organized competitive match or league competition that involves the use of an assault weapon..."? PC 12280(m)(1). It's not like this is an NRA match (the supposed "competitive match" aspect of the course isn't exactly highlighted in the course description either). Are scores taken and recorded? I'm sorry but I don't think this one fits very well into the statutory exemption against importation of assault weapons.

[floorance]

OH man..... need to train my body first (lose some weight) and get off the modern day combat training Im getting at home ie "counter-strike" Seriously though, I feel as if the original poster is a bit smug about his attitudes towards those who owns guns and are not like him. Its "his way" or the highway, and to those who don't see it his way, your basically not worthy in his eyes as a gun owner. For someone who is inviting others to participate in something that could be educational and fun, its not very inviting at all. Just my 2cents.

[xrMike]

Hey Mace, is there still room for one more (me) at this tactical manly man-fest of which you speak?

[30Cal]

Hey Mace, is there still room for one more (me) at this tactical manly man-fest of which you speak?

Not with un-tactical footwear like that!

Ty

[bear308]

The funny thing about the put up or shut up attitude is when it turns back on the people spewing it.

A year or so ago, when I was heavy in 3gun, one of the guys in our group of shooting buddies did about the same thing Mace is doing. This guy was in shape, and is the kind of guy that runs around his house "clearing" it with his Glock. This put up or shut up escalated into a bet, between team hollywood (this guy and another just like him) and team fat (myself and the other big fat guy in our group.) This crap built and built, and in the match the tacticool blowhards got their butts kicked.

It's just damned funnny when this type of attitude backfires on someone.

[MaceWindu]

...wow...100 posts in this thread and 5-6 posts about actually training/ attending. My popularity grows

Lets keep rolling...::snicker::

Mace

[MaceWindu]

...anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Mace

[bwiese]

It is legal for a non-resident to bring a AW into CA for the purposes of competition. There is a competition involved in the course.

BULL-oney. Stop BSing.

Honestly, is an informal shoot-off during a tactical rifle course the same thing as "an organized competitive match or league competition that involves the use of an assault weapon..."? PC 12280(m)(1). It's not like this is an NRA match (the supposed "competitive match" aspect of the course isn't exactly highlighted in the course description either). Are scores taken and recorded? I'm sorry but I don't think this one fits very well into the statutory exemption against importation of assault weapons.

Absolutely, Eje. I wish people like 'chappy' would stop pushing nonsense around if they don't know specifics. I don't think this will count at all and you could be in deep doodoo on multiple AW violations, mostly felonies.

Now, I have heard - but this is unverified - that DOJ has on occasion issued short-term/temporary permits for competitions and training. One of the problems with the existing AW law is that it appears that you'd have to go directly to/from the competition and not stay overnight, visit anyone, do anything else, etc.

I wonder if these guys even know CA law and are bringing in their AWs illegally. Or, perhaps they have some member/associate that has CA reg'd AWs they use (with him present).

Bottom line, I would urge people NOT to rely on this competition exemption in the law whatsoever.

Anyone signing up for the course should ask about the legal status of the trainers' AWs that they're (likely) bringing in. See if they understand CA laws. If these guys can't get that right, and got popped for AW violations, your money might well be down the tank.

[Wild Bill]

[MaceWindu]

....and the hits just keeeeeep on rollin...wish someone would be a bit more original though. "Wannabees", etc...can someone please post some new pictures, comments, etc?

Mace

[MaceWindu]

....aaaaaahhh...about the training? It's a Basic carbine class, no grenades or boobytraps...

Did anyone read the outline on the site? No? Okay, sorry...lets get back off topic...

...I have some hot topics to post that are non-gun related...can't wait to seeth replies to that! Man, you guys are easy 'marks'...throw out some bait and they come a running!

Mace