Pull the trigger on a $99 NFA Trust?

[ArmedCMT]

Don't know much about trust, but, how would one help you if you have a bunch of firearms that are grandfathered and end up non transferable, even to family members after your death?

If they can't help you there, what is the real advantage?

I believe thats what the trust is for. You put your guns in the trust so when that day comes, and grandpa is no longer with us, you dont have to worry about transferring/handing them down cuz they are already in the trust.

[dieselpower]

The ONLY legal fight against Government confiscation and Government infringement is done for the INDIVIDUAL.

A firearms trust is like hanging a sign on your front door saying, "I fully consent to all searches and seizures, come on in, there is milk and cookies in the kitchen for you too."

The Bill of Rights, DOESN'T protect businesses, non-individuals nor does it limit what the Government can do to Businesses non-individuals.

Send that $99 to CGF or NRA... you are better severed tossing that way.

[SouthCoastTargets]

I have an NFA trust, i purchased it last december and currently waiting on two stamps (SBR, and suppressor). Bought it for $99, person who i bought it from has an attorney write them and he sells them on his website and store, has sold over 100 of them and has not had a single one kicked back, because of this he offered me a 100% refund if ATF kicks it back, if this was any old person i would not have done it, but since it was a friend of a trusted friend (and he vouched for him) i pulled the trigger on it, should be getting the first of my two stamps really soon actually (probably around july 4th), so we shall see what happens.

to anybody thinking of buying a trust inside or outside of CA, save your money, trusts are going to be worthless pretty soon, ATF is closing the loophole that allows trusts to get around fingerprints and photos, but the flip side to that coin is they are going to be getting rid of the CLEO signature requirement which is what led to the prevalence of trusts in the first place. this will all take place when they release the new form 4's (supposedly in july)

[Nicoman]

I used quickin willmaker to make my trust, cost $20 online. must have worked just fine cause I got this to play with now

[Capybara]

The only NFA item most of us can get in California is an AOW as pictured above. If you want one, you had better hurry up and get your trust, although it may be too late already.

Do the math. Create your trust, apply for your tax stamp for your AOW. It takes between 5 and 7 months for the tax stamp to arrive. An AOW can only be transferred to you via SSE. Since AB169 will outlaw SSE, once passed, there will be no legal way to receive your AOW. I believe that AB169 will take affect January 1, 2014? So if you don't receive your tax stamp by 12/31, your dealer will have no legal way to deliver the AOW to you after January 1, 2014.

AOWs are going away in California.

[Never Convicted]

5 months? No. It took me closer to 8. Its really not that hard at all. The trust is the easy thing. Dont overthink it. Follow the steps in the previous threads as well as this one but get em now before you cant get them at all...

[CSACANNONEER]

The only NFA item most of us can get in California is an AOW as pictured above. If you want one, you had better hurry up and get your trust, although it may be too late already.

Do the math. Create your trust, apply for your tax stamp for your AOW. It takes between 5 and 7 months for the tax stamp to arrive. An AOW can only be transferred to you via SSE. Since AB169 will outlaw SSE, once passed, there will be no legal way to receive your AOW. I believe that AB169 will take affect January 1, 2014? So if you don't receive your tax stamp by 12/31, your dealer will have no legal way to deliver the AOW to you after January 1, 2014.

AOWs are going away in California.

Not true. These just happen to be the most common types of NFA weapons being sold in CA. There are other AOWs and almost all C&R SRSs and SBRs are legal in CA too!

[Capybara]

I agree CSA, there are other options for NFA items here but from my own experience, the few C&R SBS and SBRs available on the market are priced so as to be impractical ($2,500.00 for an old thrashed Ithaca 37 SBS anyone?)

Perhaps I should say, "AOWs seem to be the only reasonably priced NFA firearms available to Californians"? I have seen lots of interesting, cool NFA guns like briefcase guns, AR pistols with forgrips, etc. but all of them are well over $2,000.00. My hunt has continued for reasonably priced (under $1,000.00) C&R SBS and SBR but so far, coming up with nothing.

[rabagley]

Don't know much about trust, but, how would one help you if you have a bunch of firearms that are grandfathered and end up non transferable, even to family members after your death?

If they can't help you there, what is the real advantage?

The advantage is that the trust can change trustees over time (all trustees are effectively co-owners so your kids and their kids can continue to have access to all of your guns). And if your kids move out of California, they can transfer whatever is legal in their new residence.