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  • itisagoodname
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 1359

    Pull the trigger on a $99 NFA Trust?

    Gearhog has a deal for 199Trust.com fir a $99 NFA gun trust. I have researched the hell out of this topic but i am also a firm believer of "you get what you pay for" but i just dont know what you get from a $99 trust compared to $600.

    Does anyone have any info on this company, or gone with a similar deal?
    tere hanges
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    Blue
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 8069

    Curious as well.
    Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.
    Let my aim be true and my hand faster
    than those who would seek to destroy me.
    Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
    Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
    And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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    • #3
      Kevin S
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 239

      Saw that this morning as well. Honestly, never really investigated NFA trusts, but $99 isn't bad if it's legit...

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      • #4
        Zamble
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 2354

        California is planning on closing firearms trusts. Legislation has been introduced. Save your money.

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        • #5
          CAL.BAR
          CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
          • Nov 2007
          • 5632

          Can you say paralegal? If you want a trust see a real lawyer. Www.californiaguntrusts.com

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          • #6
            itisagoodname
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Jan 2010
            • 1359

            Originally posted by Zamble
            California is planning on closing firearms trusts. Legislation has been introduced. Save your money.
            I have read this as well but nobody can explain exactly what could potentially happen after the law passes (in regards to already existing trusts).
            tere hanges

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            • #7
              TeddyBallgame
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2012
              • 5732

              Don't know much about trust, but, how would one help you if you have a bunch of firearms that are grandfathered and end up non transferable, even to family members after your death?

              If they can't help you there, what is the real advantage?
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              • #8
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                • Dec 2006
                • 44093

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                • #9
                  al8550
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 934

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                  • #10
                    itisagoodname
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1359

                    Decided against it, too risky and the penalties too severe. Just something about being charged $99 for a ~$600 service.

                    What is the difference between an NFA firearms Trust and a traditional Trust?

                    A LOT! There are numerous differences between a traditional trust and an NFA Firearms Trust. An NFA firearms trust is a ‘revocable trust’ in as much, the owner can change or modify who is named as part of the trust right up until they die. Traditional trusts do not instruct who can use, sell, or possess Type II weapons. If you become incapacitated, it may be necessary to sell some assets for financial reasons. This is a covered topic in an NFA Trust. An NFA Firearms trust provides information to determine if the person receiving them has legal ability to take possession of them, that the NFA firearms are legal to possess in the recipients home state, that it is ok to transfer the items, and that the successor trustee is confident that the recipient is responsible and mature enough to possess NFA firearms.

                    The penalties for NFA violations are severe! Each violation subjects the firearms owner to forfeiture of ALL firearms, a 10 year prison term, and up to $250,000 in fines. Do yourself a favor, contact an attorney who is familiar with NFA law, and enact an NFA firearms Trust today! Don’t give those ‘Free Trusts’ you see on the internet a second look! MANY of them are completely invalid! Although the ATF may allow a transfer into the trust, if it is later deemed ‘invalid’, you are now in violation of possessing an NFA firearm illegally! Get it done right!
                    tere hanges

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                    • #11
                      Baboosh
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6769

                      Am I wrong or is the only gun you can get is a short shotgun within CA?

                      I'd do it if I could put a stock on my Vector pistol
                      Just a normal guy

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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44093

                        AFAIK, the first NFA trust in CA was done without the help of an attorney, a para legal or anybody but the person who got it. An attorney is definately not needed.

                        Originally posted by Baboosh
                        Am I wrong or is the only gun you can get is a short shotgun within CA?

                        I'd do it if I could put a stock on my Vector pistol
                        You can get any NFA item which is legal in CA. That means most AOWs, C&R SBRs and C&R SBSs. You won't be able to turn your Vector into a SBR in CA for another 48-50 years.
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                        • #13
                          JohnP
                          Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 491

                          So nobody has a gun trust?
                          Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #14
                            MontClaire
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 4859

                            Originally posted by itisagoodname
                            I have read this as well but nobody can explain exactly what could potentially happen after the law passes (in regards to already existing trusts).
                            You wouldn't be able to transfer firearms to a juristic body.i.e a corporation, an LLC, a partnership. Only physical person may own a firearm in CA.

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19627

                              Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                              Don't know much about trust, but, how would one help you if you have a bunch of firearms that are grandfathered and end up non transferable, even to family members after your death?

                              If they can't help you there, what is the real advantage?
                              Very worst case, you could always transfer out of state.

                              Originally posted by MontClaire
                              You wouldn't be able to transfer firearms to a juristic body.i.e a corporation, an LLC, a partnership. Only physical person may own a firearm in CA.
                              If that's what the bill is, then you would be okay if the trust already owned the firearm. They would be treading on dangerous ground trying to pass legislation that broke existing trusts or confiscated property already owned.

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