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  • Bogart
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    • Jun 2010
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    3D Gun Printing Website Seized by DHS



    Any chance this could have ramifications on the 80% community? Should be a story to follow closely.
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    Bogart
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    • Jun 2010
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    Though keep in mind this is April 1st.

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      ptoguy2002
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      • Jul 2006
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      Originally posted by Bogart
      Though keep in mind this is April 1st.
      At first I was like, WTF, then I thought this too.
      IMHO, if it is an April 1 joke, it's kind of in bad taste.
      Gonna get a lot of people unnecessarily riled up.
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      • #4
        arrix
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        • May 2012
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        YouTube channel still up with no word on the "seizure".
        There is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country, if the people lose their supreme confidence in themselves -- and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance -- Tyranny may always enter -- there is no charm, no bar against it -- the only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.

        -Walt Whitman

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        • #5
          mt4design
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          • Oct 2009
          • 683

          The associated DEFCAD.org site, which was just a distribution for CAD files was seized too.

          I can't see how this is an April Fools joke.

          Its kind of like yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.

          And, what jurisdiction does DHS have in this matter?

          The graphic itself IS located within the domain server itself here...

          The world's largest 3D gun repository.


          And that same graphic is pointed to the Defense Distributed site too.
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          • #6
            freonr22
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            • #7
              blkside
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              • Dec 2012
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              That doesnt look like a joke to me... but sometimes the best ones arent. Joke will be on the Gov't when those *****es keep pushing us...
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              • #8
                Capybara
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                • Feb 2012
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                Good April Fools joke. I don't think the government lists potential violations on the hosted web page though.
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                  CSACANNONEER
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                  Since it happened yesterday, I don't think it's a joke. But, I could be wrong.
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                  • #10
                    AK all day
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                    • Mar 2012
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                    This is one of those April fools jokes where you want to hurt the person who did it afterward. Tagged
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                    • #11
                      mt4design
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 683

                      They had recent press where Cody Wilson said they would have a printable lower available at the end of April.



                      March 27th, 2013
                      06:14 PM ET
                      3D gun printing possible "by the end of April"

                      By Gregory Wallace

                      Depending on your view of gun rights, Cody Wilson is either a genius or an evil genius.

                      The Texas law student leads Defense Distributed and its Wiki Weapons Project, with the goal to “create the world’s first 100% 3D printable gun” and to make those plans “freely available.”

                      “The assumption is one day the technology will become more ubiquitous and widespread,” Wilson said Wednesday on CNN’s “The Lead with Jake Tapper.”

                      “It will fall in price, and materials will be developed in a better place than they are now, so yes, if you were to have one in your home and you have the gun file, you can just click print and have the gun.”

                      That computer file would have the instructions for a 3D printer to manufacture gun parts or an entire gun in your home. And if you think 3D printers are the stuff of science fiction and the future, they were the standout products at the Consumer Electronics Show earlier this year.

                      “It’s still in its infancy,” Wilson said, but maturity doesn’t take long to follow, he added.

                      “Well to have a printable gun – it’s my intention to have that done by the end of this month and we’re at the end of March now so it’s my intention to have it done by April,” he said.

                      visit link for the rest of the article
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                      • #12
                        mt4design
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 683

                        The graphic used on the websites is found here in this news blurb...


                        April 1, 2013
                        The Regime vs. Defense Distributed
                        Posted by William Grigg on April 1, 2013 07:33 AM

                        -snip-
                        This preemptive strike looks like a particularly inventive April Fool's Day joke. I earnestly hope that it is. However, it's worth pointing out that Defense Distributed, which is pioneering 3D-printed personal firearms, was planning to make Wiki weapons available by the end of the month. And yes, the "Undetectable Firearms Act" is a real thing.
                        -snip-
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                        • #13
                          CCWFacts
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                          Originally posted by AK all day
                          This is one of those April fools jokes where you want to hurt the person who did it afterward. Tagged
                          It does not look anything like an April Fools joke. Someone really wants to stop this idea from going any further and wants to make a painful example to scare everyone else away from ever trying it. The undetectable firearms act thing is a doozy. I don't know the details of it but I assume that almost any 3d printed receiver would violate that, because they don't have metal or anything that shows up on xrays.
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                          • #14
                            mt4design
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                            • Oct 2009
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                            The Wiki page is still viable.

                            Wilson is reported to have an FFL but he was not a weapons manufacturer but rather

                            "Wilson has said that the organization operates to publish intellectual property and information developed by licensed firearms manufacturers and the public"



                            So, that's where the copyright violation must come in to play.

                            Still, there are other sites that have distributed specs and plans for AR components for years.
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                            • #15
                              mt4design
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 683

                              "Undetectable Firearms Act"



                              CNET article is embedded in the lewrockwell.com article



                              Q: What are the specifics of the Undetectable Firearms Act?
                              The meat of the law makes it a federal offense to "manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive" a firearm capable of defeating airport metal detection. It requires that any firearm, minus the stock, grips, and magazine, have an X-ray detection signature no less than that of a calibration sample containing 3.7 ounces of stainless steel.

                              The law also prohibits you from making or selling a firearm that "does not generate an [X-ray] image that accurately depicts the shape of the component." In other words, it's a federal crime to make and sell a gun that looks like something else to an airport X-ray scanner.
                              This is insane application of the law.

                              Why would the law apply to the personal manufacture of the firearm when other polymer lower manufacturers have done business for years?

                              The lowers that Defense Distributed were building were using normal lower parts kits so they contained metal components which would make them very detectable in airport metal detectors.
                              Last edited by mt4design; 04-01-2013, 7:53 AM.
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