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  • Souper
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1999

    purchasing an 80% lower that is 100% complete???

    Ive seen a bunch of ads on CL for "80% Lowers" and the pics have them milled and looking 100%...

    who is at fault and to be charged if one were to buy what was advertised as an 80% lower, only to to find out when they got home that it was a 100% lower? (Ill call it a 99% lower, because it still needs anodizing :P)
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    bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20825

    they don't often arrest the victim of fraud

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    • #3
      FORD4LIFE
      Banned
      • Dec 2012
      • 339

      Delete this thread now

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      • #4
        Intimid8tor
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2007
        • 6607

        In my opinion, both. Ignorance is no excuse under the law. Some would argue that it is not ignorance. I guess you could claim that you didn't inspect it when you bought it and maybe that would fly. Depends on the DA.
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        • #5
          prime mover
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 503

          If I couldn't inspect it somehow and already took possession of it I would have it engraved with a serial number and take responsibility for making it.

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            morfeeis
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2010
            • 7605

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              Psyco66
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 76

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              • #8
                67goat
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 896

                Originally posted by FORD4LIFE
                Delete this thread now
                Why is it so many people don't understand how the Internet works? There is no delete, if you put it on the web it's out there, period.

                If you bought one and didn't realize until after the transaction, you might be able to say you were a victim of fraud.

                If you see the ad, post a thread about it, decide to buy it any way, probably a lot harder to play the "victim".

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                • #9
                  Souper
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1999

                  Originally posted by 67goat
                  Why is it so many people don't understand how the Internet works? There is no delete, if you put it on the web it's out there, period.

                  If you bought one and didn't realize until after the transaction, you might be able to say you were a victim of fraud.

                  If you see the ad, post a thread about it, decide to buy it any way, probably a lot harder to play the "victim".
                  i wouldnt buy an 80% that had been milled by some random dude from craigslist.
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                    FORD4LIFE
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 339

                    Originally posted by 67goat
                    Why is it so many people don't understand how the Internet works? There is no delete, if you put it on the web it's out there, period.
                    So lets continue this thread further and talk more about what laws were broken rather then deleting it and keeping it low profile

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                    • #11
                      Souper
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1999

                      Originally posted by FORD4LIFE
                      So lets continue this thread further and talk more about what laws were broken rather then deleting it and keeping it low profile
                      were any laws broken?
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                      • #12
                        FORD4LIFE
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 339

                        Said person bought a firearm without a background check or through an FFL adn said firearm does not have proper engravings for sale.

                        Pretty sure that's a felony

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                        • #13
                          Souper
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1999

                          Originally posted by FORD4LIFE
                          Said person bought a firearm without a background check or through an FFL adn said firearm does not have proper engravings for sale.

                          Pretty sure that's a felony
                          Oh jeebus! I was unaware that anyone bought a milled 80% / 100%! Link?!?
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                          • #14
                            FORD4LIFE
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 339

                            No link

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                            • #15
                              67goat
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 896

                              Originally posted by FORD4LIFE
                              So lets continue this thread further and talk more about what laws were broken rather then deleting it and keeping it low profile
                              There is no point in deleting. Within seconds of the thread being created, this thread has already been indexed, copied, and cached by computers that the operators of this forum have no control over. You cannot unring things posted to the Internet.

                              As for not talking about it, nobody in this thread did anything illegal. As for the person on Craigslist, who cares. People breaking gun laws (whether they are good laws or not) make all gun owners look bad in the eyes of those looking to increase restrictions. If he's not breaking the law and just using the wrong image then there is no threat to him.

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