I would not want that rifle for free .
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Originally Posted by olhunter View Post
I prefer to not mount the fat ones.
Nice racks are much better. You can grab both sides of the rack to help stabilize while mounting.ProShooter's
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I like how the Gunbroker ad included NOT AR or AK47, so whenever someone searches for AR or AK47, that will pop up.Originally posted by barrageThat's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.Comment
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It cannot be inherited, nor can it ever be purchased.
You and no one alive can buy it for any price. It is impossible to rent and cannot be lent.
You alone and our own have earned it with...Your sweat, blood and lives. You own it forever.
The title is....."United States Marine".
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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The SU, such a maligned little rifle on these boards. It is a perfectly fine little rifle if you're not trying to do more than its made to do. It's basically the modern equivalent of the M1 carbine. Light, handy, 223, folds for easy storage, etc.
It's a fun rifle for plinking or shorter distance target shooting.
That being said, I wouldn't pay $1000 for one.Last edited by Iknownot; 12-24-2012, 7:27 PM.Comment
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Agreed. I had one of the very early ones for a while. It is fine for what it is. It is not an AR and people should not try to compare it to an AR.The SU, such a maligned little rifle on these boards. It is a perfectly fine little rifle if you're not trying to do more than its made to do. It's basically the modern equivalent of the M1 carbine. Light, handy, 223, folds for easy storage, etc.
It's a fun rifle for plinking or shorter distance target shooting.
That being said, I wouldn't pay $1000 for one.NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
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Hardly. I have one of each for all three renditions of the "A". "B" and "C" models. My A model was one of the first sold to CA (got it direct at SHOT 2004 at the time). I also have plenty of original M1 Carbines from Winchester, Inland, Postal Meter, etc.
Nowhere near an equivalent. The M1 Carbine will work now, 60-and-some years after it was made, and will work 200 years form now. The KelTec is cheap enough to keep in the trunk until it breaks; rather, keep two in the trunk to be sure you've got a back-up, not for "if" it breaks, but when. But like you said, they work as intended, and for those that I have, they do go full steam without any FTE or FTF, or stove-piping.
So, it's OK. But not more than $500 OK.-----------------------------------------------
Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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I see zero issues with that Su16. Look at the little number under "bids" Yeah, thats how many people want it and made an effort to buy it. They are willing to pay it and the poster isnt coming over, putting a gun to your head and forcing any of those people to bid on it.
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Honestly, for $500, and the KT warranty, what more do you want? If something breaks, send it in. KT has pretty good customer service and generally stands behind their stuff, from what I have seen.Hardly. I have one of each for all three renditions of the "A". "B" and "C" models. My A model was one of the first sold to CA (got it direct at SHOT 2004 at the time). I also have plenty of original M1 Carbines from Winchester, Inland, Postal Meter, etc.
Nowhere near an equivalent. The M1 Carbine will work now, 60-and-some years after it was made, and will work 200 years form now. The KelTec is cheap enough to keep in the trunk until it breaks; rather, keep two in the trunk to be sure you've got a back-up, not for "if" it breaks, but when. But like you said, they work as intended, and for those that I have, they do go full steam without any FTE or FTF, or stove-piping.
So, it's OK. But not more than $500 OK.Comment
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What more do I want?
Um, something that doesn't break? Especially when it might break at a curcial moment? Or maybe something that doesn't break that might yield dangerous results? Just because one pays $500 doesn't make it OK for a firearm to break. Plenty of companies have $500 firearms that do not break as the norm.
It can be done for $500, without "breaking" being the norm. And KelTec's customer service is just OK, not stellar. With regular reports and common expectation they might break, they are not a gun I would depend on.
I any case, I still bought those 3 and still own those 3. I also still own a Grendel P12, a Kel-Tec ancestor. All nice oddities, but none are firearms to depend on. Yet, I think very highly of the KelTec P32 and P3AT models, and found them to be very reliable, and own one of each.
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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