I am calling it. This is 2008 all over again.

[blackbok]

Man, I was at Walmart last night and they were pretty stocked. Wish I would've known, I would have panicked.

[gemoose23]

Report from the Midwest. On monday night Walmart had ar15s in their display, no 22lr ammo, but tula. 223 and. 45ACP on the shelf. Local store yesterday, no ar15s & one ak47 on the wall but shipment arriving this week, hornady, winchester and Remington ammo on shelves, but no bulk packs available.

[The Gleam]

UPDATE: I went BACK to Turners Reseda this evening after work and the store was still humming; a good 50 to 60 people in the store when I got there, many with numbers 100 numerals or more beyond the letter/numbers combo the current set of 100 numbers they were working through. It got better as the evening wore on because some people simply got tired of waiting and bailed.

However, when I left there tonight, the shelves were cleared; I mean GONE - blank! NO AKs. NO PTR-91s. Not much in the way of other stuff. A guy there bought the last HK USC off the shelf. Even M1As down to the last one. NO receivers left of any kind. They have stopped taking orders on some brand/model ARs, but noted there would be another brand they are getting in that they were taking pre-orders. There were some Del Ton/JP ARs in some target configurations, but most all other ARs were cleared. I noticed the reloading components were rather thin, in some calibers, gone completely for popular brands.

Crazy. I suspect in the weeks ahead, many manufacturers will ramp up AR-receiver production and strictly sell AR stripped receivers only - not waste time on building complete rifles or waiting for parts to do so. But I suspect we'll see stripped-receiver prices jump to $179 and $199 by next week.

Keep in mind, this time around; it's not just CA - it's national. If you thought it was crazy here in CA in 1999 or in late 2005 or early 2006 when OLL/OLR was thought to be "limited-time-only" and stripped lowers were tough to get - imagine that clammering for a whole nation going on!

I got what I wanted; they had a hard to find item on their "discontinued list" that I had been eyeing since the end of November; kept putting it off, stalling, but merely went to get it because of the extreme sale price and they won't be carrying it any more - nobody had it as low - so DROSed it tonight. It was worth the wait and blowing my evening.

[gunafficionado]

This will be worse than 2008...

+1....same here, 2012/2013 will be worse.

[NOTABIKER]

Agreed on all fronts. All the usual sites for ammo and mags are COMPLETELY out. Some have even shut down their websites.

I was at Turners Pasadena today and they had 2 regular ARs left (friend bought one of them, a beautiful DD) and 3 target models. All other stock was gone. All AKs gone. Everyone in the store was borderline manic to buy a gun. The DROS number for CA alone was at 3600 by 1:30PM. The hysteria is palpable across the country. My friend in Portland is reporting the same thing. All guns on the shelves are sold, mags are gone as well.

This is absolutely insane. I got in to this in early 2009 and it was mayhem then. This will absolutely be worse.

Buckle the F down and amass what you can. To the retailers upping their prices to profit from the hysteria




2 years? I don't remember anything being "back till normal-ish" until this year, and now here we are again.

just because we buy them does not mean we get to keep them. the left wants a complete gun ban. they are better at getting what they want than we are. they got a radical lefty failed prez reelected did they not.

[george223]

We also have the left wing media propaganda machine against us. If the Republicans can withstand that, I'll be forever grateful.

[bender152]

The price gouging lasted well into 2010-2011 if I remember correctly from personal experience.

I think things started to calm down in 2010.

I know in 2011 firearms and ammo were very easy to come by and were reasonably priced. That's when I was buying stuff in preparation for this year's elections.

[tenpercentfirearms]

We also have the left wing media propaganda machine against us. If the Republicans can withstand that, I'll be forever grateful.

We can withstand that. The NRA will jump on board tomorrow. If my Congressman caves, he will be out of a job. He knows it. Many other congressman know it. Just not the majority of your congressmen in California.

[Intimid8tor]

I visited 3 stores between last night and today. Scored two odd magazines for less than half price which was the good news.

Sportsman's warehouse had 1 black .308 battle rifle. Cabella's had a couple. Impact was sold out of all AR pattern rifles. All were sold out of standard capacity mags. Didn't look at ammo.

I feel bad for gunshops. They are going to sell everything and then not be able to restock which will make it hard. There were already delays out there and this will make it 10X worse. In 07, the delays didn't start until around December for most things.

[Marthor]

I just got back from Walmart and got the las box of 22LR on the shelf. There was a line at the ammo case. The guy in front of me got the last box of 40 and all the 45 was already gone.

[winnre]

On one hand I want to go buy ammo and stuff, but I am full really. If there was no ammo for a year I'd be fine, except for maybe my .32.

But is this 2008 again? in December 2008, right when I got back from deployment, I went to Turner's and they had like 3 rifles and two pistols for sale. And one of the long guns was a $3,500 shotgun. When I asked about a 1911, they said 9 month wait.

The good thing about that mess in 2008 is that it ended. But I bet the majority bought one gun. And today either they want another gun, or, since there are more people around, some folks who did not buy in 2008 are buying today.

When the mad rush ends what will we have? A surge of extra guns going for sale cheap? Or will the demand get tighter and price go up for decades like they did with machine guns in 1986?

I guess when the dust settles I'll have to be happy with what I have.

[BlackonBlack]

I hope the manufactures are smart and focus solely on stripped lowers and get as many as they can in stores. That way they can sell components to these customers later on.

[Fishslayer]

Anyone know where I can find one of those kel-tec shotgun thingies...

Does it have a shoulder thing that goes up?

[damngato]

I think it's all a waste. I don't see anything changing, at least for us in California. It just sucks that we all have to pay now or wait for this madness to end. Had my eye on another one in the private sale section that went up over 50% after it had been listed for almost a month at one price. Pretty nuts. Wish I had more to sell, probably won't get more for them then they are at now for a long time