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  • 68kaiser
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 31

    buying out of state

    Dont take this the wrong way i dont want to do anything illegal its just i would hate to pass up a nice hunting rifle a friend was selling while i was visiting them out of state.


    1 - Can i buy a gun out of state from a private party and bring it back?

    2 - Would i have to register said gun?

    If only our forefathers could see this country now..
  • #2
    -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Originally posted by 68kaiser
    Dont take this the wrong way i dont want to do anything illegal its just i would hate to pass up a nice hunting rifle a friend was selling while i was visiting them out of state.


    1 - Can i buy a gun out of state from a private party and bring it back?

    2 - Would i have to register said gun?

    As a resident of CA, you can pay your friend for the rifle & have him ship it to your friendly local ffl in CA. Where you fill out atf form 4473, have your background check, and wait 10 days to pick up your rifle.

    You may be surprised how much you pay the dealer to help you fill out the form, do your background check, and hold your rifle for a week and a half.

    Registration is not part of the deal. Long guns are not registered.

    What kind of gun and how old??

    -hanko
    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

    A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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    • #3
      68kaiser
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 31

      I dont have one lined up at the time but was just wondering how to go about it if the chance pressented it self.

      It sounds like a pain in the ***** and makes me miss OREGON that much more.
      I got to move back to that free state I can still remember OREGONS gun shows where you can walk in,buy a gun and walk out with the gun, same with the gun shops. sorry i got an a whole different rant.........
      If only our forefathers could see this country now..

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      • #4
        Shane916
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2006
        • 5004

        Originally posted by 68kaiser
        I dont have one lined up at the time but was just wondering how to go about it if the chance pressented it self.

        It sounds like a pain in the ***** and makes me miss OREGON that much more.
        I got to move back to that free state I can still remember OREGONS gun shows where you can walk in,buy a gun and walk out with the gun, same with the gun shops. sorry i got an a whole different rant.........
        Welcome to CA

        That's is one of the many frustrating and pointless pieces of legislature relating to firearms you will soon discover

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        • #5
          68kaiser
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 31

          Now why is it when i moved here i brought some of my guns with me and did not have to register them.
          If only our forefathers could see this country now..

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          • #6
            Mssr. Eleganté
            Blue Blaze Irregular
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 10401

            Originally posted by 68kaiser
            Now why is it when i moved here i brought some of my guns with me and did not have to register them.
            There are three possibilities...

            1. You only bought long guns, and as -hanko mentioned above, long guns are not registered in California.

            2. You moved here before January 1, 1998, the date that new residents were required to start reporting any handguns they bring with them into California.

            c. You moved here after January 1, 1998 but didn't report the handguns you brought with you because you didn't know you had to.
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            • #7
              68kaiser
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 31

              so i can buy long guns from a friend that wants to get rid of one and just bring it home?
              If only our forefathers could see this country now..

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              • #8
                DedEye
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2006
                • 8655

                Originally posted by 68kaiser
                so i can buy long guns from a friend that wants to get rid of one and just bring it home?
                If they are C&Rs, over fifty years old and not assault weapons, in California.
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                • #9
                  -hanko
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 14174

                  Originally posted by 68kaiser
                  so i can buy long guns from a friend that wants to get rid of one and just bring it home?
                  Once you became a resident of the people's republic, only guns at least 50 years old.

                  Federal law prohibits you from buying a younger long gun out of state, unless you transfer it through a licensee.

                  I know what you mean about OR, I'm lucky to spend half my time residing in ID

                  -hanko
                  True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                  Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                  Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                  A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                  • #10
                    8200rpm
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1145

                    Originally posted by 68kaiser
                    I dont have one lined up at the time but was just wondering how to go about it if the chance pressented it self.

                    It sounds like a pain in the ***** and makes me miss OREGON that much more.
                    I got to move back to that free state I can still remember OREGONS gun shows where you can walk in,buy a gun and walk out with the gun, same with the gun shops. sorry i got an a whole different rant.........
                    It's FEDERAL law that requires handguns to be transferred by FFL within the state of your residence. So with the exception of the CA 10 day wait, HSC, and second proof of residency, you would need to get a local FFL transfer out of state purchases in any of the 50 states.

                    For example, if a resident of Oregon wants to buy a handgun from a resident of Washington, the Washington resident must ship the handgun to a FFL in the Oregon. The FFL in Oregon is responsible for "transferring" the handgun to the Oregon resident. It's a FEDERAL law.

                    It's the same in CA but you have to do the 10 day wait, second form of residency, and HSC for handguns AND long guns.
                    Last edited by 8200rpm; 02-26-2008, 5:46 PM.

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                    • #11
                      -hanko
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 14174

                      Originally posted by 8200rpm
                      It's FEDERAL law that requires firearms to be transferred by FFL within the state of your residence. So with the exception of the CA 10 day wait, HSC, and second proof of residency, you would need to get a local FFL transfer out of state purchases in any of the 50 states.

                      For example, if a resident of Oregon wants to buy a gun from a resident of Washington, the Washington resident must ship the gun to a FFL in the Oregon. The FFL in Oregon is responsible for "transferring" the gun to the Oregon resident. It's a FEDERAL law.

                      It's the same in CA but you have to do the 10 day wait, second form of residency, and HSC.
                      Federal law does allow a resident of one state to buy a long gun in another state, IN PERSON, as long as both states allow the sale. CA does not allow its residents to do that. Sorry, you're sol

                      -hanko
                      True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                      Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                      Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                      A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                      • #12
                        outersquare
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 255

                        Originally posted by -hanko
                        Federal law does allow a resident of one state to buy a long gun in another state, IN PERSON, as long as both states allow the sale. CA does not allow its residents to do that. Sorry, you're sol

                        -hanko
                        yeah i remember reading that on the ATF website one time

                        goddamn, f--k this state.
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                        • #13
                          8200rpm
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1145

                          Originally posted by -hanko
                          Federal law does allow a resident of one state to buy a long gun in another state, IN PERSON, as long as both states allow the sale. CA does not allow its residents to do that. Sorry, you're sol

                          -hanko
                          You're right. Post edited.

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                          • #14
                            11Z50
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1997

                            I Know alot of folks that travel frequently and have relatives out of state. Your situation brings to mind a friend of mine, who invited an out of state relative to a quail hunt in the PRK. Said relative shows up with several shotguns since we were also planning on some trap shooting.

                            The hunt was a great success, and the relative, from a free state gave my friend a shotgun in appreciation for the great time.

                            No laws violated, since no registration is required, and once the firearm was legally in the PRK, an inter-familial gifting is authorized.

                            No handgun or AW = no reg requirement, even in the PRK.

                            I know of no requirement or statute that requires anyone to declare where he acquired his rifles and shotguns. If you have them, and they are not stolen, they are legal and no reg is required. If someone was to ask my friend how he acquired that particular weapon, I'd have to say "none of your business" is a good response.

                            Almost all longarms got to the PRK from another state, since few are made here. It doesn't matter how it got to you, and if not stolen, you are not required disclose that information. DOJ would like us all to pay the fee and reg all our guns with them. Well, the reality is, that ain't gonna happen.

                            (This post should get things going!)

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                            • #15
                              -hanko
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14174

                              Originally posted by outersquare
                              yeah i remember reading that on the ATF website one time

                              goddamn, f--k this state.
                              Somebody's gonna' respond about you can get to the mountains and the beach in the same day, yada, yada. You can also avail yourself to high taxes, a government that doesn't care about personal responsibility, etc. Not to mention traffic.

                              Not a flame, but reality.

                              -hanko
                              True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                              Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                              Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                              A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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