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  • goodlookin1
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2557

    Had to "Clear" my Backyard Last Night....now a Question

    I was asleep and heard a loud noise somewhere and just kinda wrote it off as either a dream or the family cat getting into some mischief. Not but 5 seconds later my wife comes running into our room whisper-yelling, "DID YOU HEAR THAT?!? HURRY GET YOUR GUN!!!" Apparently my wife was putting our daughter to sleep when that noise happened right outside my daughters' window to the backyard. Blinds were closed so my wife didnt see anything. She also heard other noises prior to the loud noise, but whote them off until the loud one happened. For the record: I'm not the type of person that would wait for an intruder to come into my house and put my family at risk just so I can have some legal standing.....I'd rather put them furthest away from danger and confront the potential threat far away from them (not that it means i'm going to automatically shoot on sight or anything, but i wouldnt hesitate if I saw the perp had a weapon or if they came at me).

    Anyway, I tell her to turn off ALL lights inside so if somebody is in our backyard, they cant see in and I can see out. It was about 10:45PM at this time. So I rush to get basic clothes on and quickly grab my surefire tac light and my loaded Kimber. I slowly creep up and peer out the window....it's lighter outside than inside now since the lights are all off. I see nothing moving and hear nothing else. I need to get outside to verify, but decided against opening the sliding glass door because tactically speaking, it's not in the best placement: Middle of the yard....If I looked right first and someone was to my left, they'll get the jump on me. So I quickly move back to the garage and out the side door to the side yard. First thing I notice is that it is really windy. Then I see our gate is fully closed and locked. Phew! That tells me that it is much less likely that someone is back there because our gate would make too much noise to risk closing, let alone opening. Still suspicious, I shine the light down the side yard towards the back. WOW!!! 260 Lumens is freaking BRIGHT when you just wake up. It took my eyes a second to adjust and understand what I am seeing.....all clear. Proceeded down the side to the backyard and turned the corner, lit up the backyard again. BRIGHT. All clear. Turns out after clearing both side yards and backyard that the wind blew over my daughters' playhouse wall and it made a bunch of noise crashing to the concrete. So false alarm.

    All legal questions aside regarding confronting a potential trespasser in your fenced off backyard at 10:45 at night, I am so surprised at how bright 260 lumens is when your eyes have been adjusted to complete darkness and I have to wonder: What is the optimal brightness for a tac light when in these situations? I found out that the light should be too bright because even when the light is not pointed at me, it can still be too bright. But on the other hand, if it was that bright for me, it's going to be WAY brighter for the one I am shining it on, thus completely blinding his vision my direction, so maybe that one second adjustment with my eyes doesnt matter so much, as the recipient of the light will be basically completely blinded looking in my direction?

    Just wondering what others use as their pitch black tac lights and what you think the optimal light/lumen output is.

    BTW: My tac light is a Surefire M951 with a Malkoff E61 LED lamp upgrade.
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    teh.killer.of.zombies
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 291

    I have yet to invest in a rail light, in meantime I have been using a head lamp so I am hands free. But I would assume the brighter the better imo to assure you have the clearest vision.

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    Originally posted by bulgron
    (For the record, I think my grandchildren will be retired and moved to AZ before shall-issue CCW comes to this screwed up state... and my kids are still currently young teenagers.)
    Originally posted by hoffmang
    Wow. I'd work harder to stop the underage sex in your family

    -Gene

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    • #3
      Synergy
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2008
      • 14303

      Originally posted by teh.killer.of.zombies
      I have yet to invest in a rail light, in meantime I have been using a head lamp so I am hands free. But I would assume the brighter the better imo to assure you have the clearest vision.

      Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
      I too am using a LED headlamp - Princeton Tec Remix Pro IIRC 70-80 lumens, low and high brightness with red and white light.
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      • #4
        morfeeis
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2010
        • 7605

        Do you have a dog? If not get one, it would have made thing a lot simpler.

        As for lights i have a 300L off brand light up front and a 120L off-brand next to my bed. cant you set the lumens on that surefire? For close range the 120L is more then enough, anything past 50 yards and the 300l is a great asset.

        Happy it was just the wind.
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        Originally posted by Ayn Rand
        You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.

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        • #5
          teh.killer.of.zombies
          Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 291

          Yes def have a dog! Not much of a intimidation factor is my mini Aussie but only barks at sound of unfamiliar noises....helps a long way.

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          Originally posted by bulgron
          (For the record, I think my grandchildren will be retired and moved to AZ before shall-issue CCW comes to this screwed up state... and my kids are still currently young teenagers.)
          Originally posted by hoffmang
          Wow. I'd work harder to stop the underage sex in your family

          -Gene

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          • #6
            ParanoidCivilian
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1355

            I can't believe you would put your family and yourself at risk over a noise in the backyard. Why try to be a hero when the cops get paid to do that. Slow down on the cowboy tactics and let the professionals investigate the scary noises outside. Inside the house, is a whole different story.

            Who is dead asleep at 10:45pm anyways?
            You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby.... You're gonna.............................................

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            • #7
              Manolito
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 2324

              Just a side note if you use a red or blue light it does not harm your night vision. This allows you to use the light sparingly and return to your night vision. Once you confront the intruder then the brighter white light the better.

              We use a wireless driveway alarm motion detectors for our perimeter this unit will allow up to six sensors and each has a different tone allowing you to know where the intrusion is at. I replace batteries once a year and it is a very good first warning.

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              • #8
                Lucky Scott
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 2604

                I am no expert, so I could be wrong, but isnt it better to be in a defensive position inside the house rather than go outside and confront someone?

                I think if I am inside I can put up a better defense and make it harder for someone to harm my family. If I go outside, they may get me while I am going thru an open door and now they have a easy way into the home. I would rather they give away their position by making noise breaking a window or door.
                All legalities aside, I feel inside would be more effective.

                Am I wrong?

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                • #9
                  Scratch705
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2009
                  • 12520

                  Originally posted by ParanoidCivilian
                  I can't believe you would put your family and yourself at risk over a noise in the backyard. Why try to be a hero when the cops get paid to do that. Slow down on the cowboy tactics and let the professionals investigate the scary noises outside. Inside the house, is a whole different story.

                  Who is dead asleep at 10:45pm anyways?
                  it is called self-reliance.

                  if he had called the cops, it would have been at minimum 20 minutes before they arrive unless they really had nothing to do, or a unit was just driving near the area.
                  Originally posted by leelaw
                  Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                  Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                  Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                  Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                  Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                  • #10
                    Synergy
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2008
                    • 14303

                    Originally posted by ParanoidCivilian
                    I can't believe you would put your family and yourself at risk over a noise in the backyard. Why try to be a hero when the cops get paid to do that. Slow down on the cowboy tactics and let the professionals investigate the scary noises outside. Inside the house, is a whole different story.

                    Who is dead asleep at 10:45pm anyways?
                    Here comes the members of Paranoid's belief, let the cops do their job. This topic of "clearing" has been brought up many times.
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                    • #11
                      neouser
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1122

                      Don't use a flashlight, but if/when I do, it's a Blackhawk Gladius.

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                      • #12
                        chrisf
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 6501

                        Originally posted by ParanoidCivilian
                        I can't believe you would put your family and yourself at risk over a noise in the backyard. Why try to be a hero when the cops get paid to do that. Slow down on the cowboy tactics and let the professionals investigate the scary noises outside. Inside the house, is a whole different story.

                        Who is dead asleep at 10:45pm anyways?
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                        • #13
                          comblock
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1318

                          and what if it was a LEO investigating a man-with-a-gun call, and sees you with a gun. That would probably not of ended well. Why go outside when you are already safer in your home?

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                          • #14
                            ClarenceBoddicker
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2783

                            Night Vision or IR. Use it to keep hidden & still see what's out there. You can add IR perimeter lights so you can effectively use the cheap Russian commercial 1/3rd gen night vision or better yet a US IR mono & not turn yourself into an IR beacon. Have a switch or better yet many that turn on all your outside IR lights. You can also have them motion sensor activated. You can get very bright ones that will shut down even the best 3rd Gen NVDs. As you are on the inside looking out, it will preserve your NV or IR sight, while turning it into very bright green daylight outside.

                            Be advised that many blinds don't work as intended. Do a dark test at each window from the outside with the room lit up & your wife standing inside in front of the window with the blinds down.

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                            • #15
                              five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34753

                              Originally posted by ParanoidCivilian
                              I can't believe you would put your family and yourself at risk over a noise in the backyard. Why try to be a hero when the cops get paid to do that. Slow down on the cowboy tactics and let the professionals investigate the scary noises outside. Inside the house, is a whole different story.

                              Who is dead asleep at 10:45pm anyways?
                              ↑That↑

                              Stay inside, let those guy earn their pensions.

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