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  • #16
    Yugo
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 8359

    as far as charging the batts. How about something likke those non plug chargers for cell phones.....dont know exactly how they work but they do. Place your gun on some type of charge pad in your safe.
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    • #17
      keenkeen
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2011
      • 6782

      Originally posted by glockman19
      devices are now designed with the ability to stay dormant until activated and then have it send out it's location. It can be set up to "ping" it's location at specified intervals.

      There are both active and passive devices...so a battery life of even 10 hours that uses little charge once every 5 min. it would take decades for the battery to be used up
      Show me an example of a trackable GPS style device (not RFID) that has a battery life as you describe above.
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      • #18
        CSACANNONEER
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        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2006
        • 44093

        Originally posted by glockman19
        I guarantee a database can be created, give every user and object a unique identifier with rotating encryption, that only the owner knows and has control of. Again, Information would reside off-shore inaccessable to the United States Government or anyone else.

        The only way LE would have access is if you allow it and then would get a dot on a map of the object's location.

        Let's face it...if anyone steals your firearm the police know who you are, the weapon stolen and the serial number if a handgun...

        What are you afraid of?
        Let's face it, many of us legally own many unregistered firearms. The police do not know who we are or where we are. What am I afraid of? Let's just say that when I was a young child, I spoke with many older adults who had tatoos on their forarms. They had plenty of stories and warnings for my young ears. If this was ever implimented, believe me, governments around the world would find ways to infiltrate it and use the data in ways other than how you are proposing it to be used. Besides the TFH thing, I just plain don't feel the need to share my personal life with the gubmit or anyone else. Freedom comes with inherent risks and responsibilities. For those who don't want those risks and responsibilities, I say MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY instead of trying to ruin this one.
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        • #19
          Felix168
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 501

          Originally posted by 1000stars
          That may not be a bad idea.

          But first my suggestion(take it or leave it) on prevention......

          1. Don't have gun related stickers on your vehicle/home.
          2. When coming from a shooting range or gun purchase, go the opposite way for a little bit then make a u-turn towards home while being aware if you are being followed.
          3. Put guns directly into vehicle from your house. I see Rifle cases on driveways during loading. Be aware who is around.
          4. Wait till no one is around before unloading vehicle of firearms to put in the house. Do not unload and place firearms on driveway. Take them inside directly.
          5. If possible load/unload inside garage with door closed.
          6. If your safe is in the garage, be sure it is not visible when the garage door is open by covering it.

          If anyone has additional suggestions please do share.......

          Very good advice indeed. Thanks for sharing.

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          • #20
            john67elco
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 3155

            Tie the chip to your laser or flashlight battery? Little chip could not take to much juice.
            Originally posted by Gwalker99
            ""Calgunners couldn't wait to start falling all over themselves as to how to best comply""


            half of you here are weak and lame that will basically wind up being happy with .22 single shot pistols or single barrel shotguns..

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            • #21
              glockman19
              Banned
              • Jun 2007
              • 10486

              Originally posted by keenkeen
              Show me an example of a trackable GPS style device (not RFID) that has a battery life as you describe above.
              What is your issue wiht RFID?

              Yes it is a passive RFID device that lays dormand until activated.

              Now what's the issue?

              also...It's not a tracking system it's a locating system
              Last edited by glockman19; 09-19-2012, 5:34 PM.

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              • #22
                glockman19
                Banned
                • Jun 2007
                • 10486

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                Let's face it, many of us legally own many unregistered firearms. The police do not know who we are or where we are. What am I afraid of? Let's just say that when I was a young child, I spoke with many older adults who had tatoos on their forarms. They had plenty of stories and warnings for my young ears. If this was ever implimented, believe me, governments around the world would find ways to infiltrate it and use the data in ways other than how you are proposing it to be used. Besides the TFH thing, I just plain don't feel the need to share my personal life with the gubmit or anyone else. Freedom comes with inherent risks and responsibilities. For those who don't want those risks and responsibilities, I say MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY instead of trying to ruin this one.
                So...the law says you must report the missing/stolen firearm within 48 hours.

                You will give the police a description of the stolen property...won't you? and how will they know it's yours? maybe a serial number that you provided them? No one cares how you gained posession. I have a handgun I purchased from a friends father back in 1984-85 where all I did was hand him the cash and he handed me the gun...No record...but if it were stolen I would report the make model and serial number to the police...What's the issue again?

                All I'm proposing is You the owner set up a unique code for your property and yourself. No one has access but you and the only information it gives you or any one else is the GPS coordinates of your property.

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                • #23
                  Uriah02
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3149

                  I would rather take the precautionary steps to ensure my stuff doesn't get stolen then have a tracking system. Suppose this idea takes off and many gun owners install these, how long would it take before there is legislation to give gov't access to that information...?
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                  • #24
                    five.five-six
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2006
                    • 34839

                    Originally posted by keenkeen
                    Battery life is going to be the technical hurdle...
                    that's been discussed before


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                    • #25
                      CK_32
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14369

                      I'd rather just get them cover by insurance.

                      Instead of just knowing where it's at get the guy thrown in jail and get a new safe new guns.. Stress free instead of hoping your evestment actually works and comesthorough
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                      • #26
                        six seven tango
                        CGSSA Associate
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1725

                        Originally posted by keenkeen
                        Show me an example of a trackable GPS style device (not RFID) that has a battery life as you describe above.
                        Not sure if it's GPS based, but LOJAK comes to mind. They've got em small enough for laptops, who's to say the technology's not there. Sure, the battery may have to be replaced every 5 years or so, but that's a whole lot better than having to keep your gun on a charger.
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                        • #27
                          cannon
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 8589

                          I prefer to live my life without others be able to track my moves.
                          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                          • #28
                            CK_32
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14369

                            Originally posted by Jeepers
                            lol this would go over like a lead balloon for most folks ...

                            remember the *****storm that the RF chips in pistols made folks think they where being tracked
                            Lmao forgot about that
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                            • #29
                              glockman19
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 10486

                              Originally posted by six seven tango
                              Not sure if it's GPS based, but LOJAK comes to mind. They've got em small enough for laptops, who's to say the technology's not there. Sure, the battery may have to be replaced every 5 years or so, but that's a whole lot better than having to keep your gun on a charger.
                              Yes similar to a lojack

                              Originally posted by cannon
                              I prefer to live my life without others be able to track my moves.
                              You would be the only one capable of using the service. And again, it's not a tracking device it is a locator device to be activated only when lost or stolen.

                              As others have mentioned even the best power sources today, that small, is capable of 20-24 hrs. of "standby" ours is dormant until activated, then and only then would you be able to locate it. It would not be a constant track more like a ping of position every 5 or 10 min...and if you program for a "track mode" it would be useless in less than a day.

                              It is NOT a Tracker..It IS a Locator. It will only give you a position to be seen on a map overlay.

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                              • #30
                                SilverTauron
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 5699

                                REALLY?

                                GPS Tracking? Lets just press STOP for a moment and think.

                                We live in the Real World, where our government is operating multiple ownership and firearm databases in direct violation of Federal Law ( 1986 FOPA). Ill give you about 20 seconds after the switch is flipped on for this so called "private" database to have its records pulled by a VERY curious government agency wanting all the info it can on lawful gun owners.

                                O, you say Uncle Sam can't do that because its illegal?

                                Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
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