GPS tracking for your firearm

[glockman19]

After reading the thread of the safe that was cut open with a common construction power tool, I was wondering how far would you go to track or keep safe your firearm?

If available, what would you pay, for a device that could annonimously track your firearm with GPS?

My thought is to make available a tracking device that could be added to the inside frame of ANY firearm where IF stolen you could access a secured encrypted database and find the location of your firearms...you could alert police who could apprehend the thief(s).

This device would cost a one time fee to purchase and install, with a nominal fee for activation and recovery.

Q: What would you pay for the device?

Q: What would you pay for recovery?

$150 for the device and $100 for the recovery?

[LMTluvr]

Would gladly pay 250$ for a recovered stolen firearm.

[bluebird]

^ That.

[Chris J]

For a rifle: hollowed-out stock, cheap no-contract android phone with free tracking app, mute the ringer, remember to charge the battery. Done.

[nicki]

Interesting.

After reading the thread of the safe that was cut open with a common construction power tool, I was wondering how far would you go to track or keep safe your firearm?

If available, what would you pay, for a device that could annonimously track your firearm with GPS?

My thought is to make available a tracking device that could be added to the inside frame of ANY firearm where IF stolen you could access a secured encrypted database and find the location of your firearms...you could alert police who could apprehend the thief(s).

This device would cost a one time fee to purchase and install, with a nominal fee for activation and recovery.

Q: What would you pay for the device?

Q: What would you pay for recovery?

$150 for the device and $100 for the recovery?

Issues of course would be size, maintaining charge since device would probably have to be left on 24/7.

Device would need to be discreet, otherwise thief would just pull it and throw it somewhere.

Nicki

[1000stars]

That may not be a bad idea.

But first my suggestion(take it or leave it) on prevention......

1. Don't have gun related stickers on your vehicle/home.
2. When coming from a shooting range or gun purchase, go the opposite way for a little bit then make a u-turn towards home while being aware if you are being followed.
3. Put guns directly into vehicle from your house. I see Rifle cases on driveways during loading. Be aware who is around.
4. Wait till no one is around before unloading vehicle of firearms to put in the house. Do not unload and place firearms on driveway. Take them inside directly.
5. If possible load/unload inside garage with door closed.
6. If your safe is in the garage, be sure it is not visible when the garage door is open by covering it.

If anyone has additional suggestions please do share.......

[Jeepers]

lol this would go over like a lead balloon for most folks ...

remember the *****storm that the RF chips in pistols made folks think they where being tracked

[Vlad 11]

It's a great idea , one that should be technically feasible with current technology.

Im not really up on spy stuff, but are there small bug chip type deals that are available to everyday civilians? Most firearms have at least a small cavity somewhere.

[glockman19]

For a rifle: hollowed-out stock, cheap no-contract android phone with free tracking app, mute the ringer, remember to charge the battery. Done.

Issues of course would be size, maintaining charge since device would probably have to be left on 24/7.

Device would need to be discreet, otherwise thief would just pull it and throw it somewhere.

Nicki

It would be permenantly affixed to the frame of the revolver under the grips, inside the mag well of semi auto hand guns and inside the mag well of semi-auto magazine fed rifles, bolt action rifles affixed to the Reciever.

maintaining charge not an issue.

it could be the size of a grain of rice or as flat as a sticker never affecting firearm performance and would be water and chemical proof.

If it catches on manufacturers could incorporate them into their firearms allowing only the owner the ability to track their property anywhere in the world if stolen.

[glockman19]

That may not be a bad idea.

But first my suggestion(take it or leave it) on prevention......

1. Don't have gun related stickers on your vehicle/home.
2. When coming from a shooting range or gun purchase, go the opposite way for a little bit then make a u-turn towards home while being aware if you are being followed.
3. Put guns directly into vehicle from your house. I see Rifle cases on driveways during loading. Be aware who is around.
4. Wait till no one is around before unloading vehicle of firearms to put in the house. Do not unload and place firearms on driveway. Take them inside directly.
5. If possible load/unload inside garage with door closed.
6. If your safe is in the garage, be sure it is not visible when the garage door is open by covering it.

If anyone has additional suggestions please do share.......

Great Suggestions. IMHO Guns and Gun safes should NOT be in the garage. However if you must. Frame it in and strap it to the wall in addition to bolting to the floor. Make a false wall to conceal it.

lol this would go over like a lead balloon for most folks ...

remember the *****storm that the RF chips in pistols made folks think they where being tracked

Yes remember it. in this case the owner would have to activate it through the 3rd party company. NO Court or LE would have access to the off-shore data...unless you cooperate...and allow them limited access to the location only of your firaram(s). All LE would have access to would be a dot on a map.

It's a great idea , one that should be technically feasible with current technology.

Im not really up on spy stuff, but are there small bug chip type deals that are available to everyday civilians? Most firearms have at least a small cavity somewhere.

It is absolutely poistively capable, It's the feasability I'm trying rto work out.

Perhaps the military would be interested in tracking the location of all of their firearms post Fast and Furious?

[CSACANNONEER]

This idea scares the crap out of me. I put it ahead of serializing and registering each bullet, microstamping, etc. In the end, the gubmit would be able to access the entire database at any time, for any reason.

[keenkeen]

Battery life is going to be the technical hurdle...

A device like you are describing that is small enough to go into the grips of a 1911 for example would only have a standby life of about 20 hours. Things are getting better but that would be today's limiting factor I think.

Unless you plan on plugging in your guns (all of them, every day)

[glockman19]

This idea scares the crap out of me. I put it ahead of serializing and registering each bullet, microstamping, etc. In the end, the gubmit would be able to access the entire database at any time, for any reason.

I guarantee a database can be created, give every user and object a unique identifier with rotating encryption, that only the owner knows and has control of. Again, Information would reside off-shore inaccessable to the United States Government or anyone else.

The only way LE would have access is if you allow it and then would get a dot on a map of the object's location.

Let's face it...if anyone steals your firearm the police know who you are, the weapon stolen and the serial number if a handgun...

What are you afraid of?

[mif_slim]

I can picture it already....

someone is going to write a bill requiring all firearms to have GPS installed in them to "recover" stolen guns but the truth is to follow all gun owners on where their whereabouts are....

[glockman19]

Battery life is going to be the technical hurdle...

A device like you are describing that is small enough to go into the grips of a 1911 for example would only have a standby life of about 20 hours. Things are getting better but that would be today's limiting factor I think.

Unless you plan on plugging in your guns (all of them, every day)

devices are now designed with the ability to stay dormant until activated and then have it send out it's location. It can be set up to "ping" it's location at specified intervals.

There are both active and passive devices...so a battery life of even 10 hours that uses little charge once every 5 min. it would take decades for the battery to be used up