Holstered Gun at the Range

[toby]

I don't understand the hate for shooting from a holster, I you can do it safely, then what's the issue? Do it in a unsafe manner, then there theres a problem. If a range makes you take a class to be able to safely draw then that's fine, I understand the need to cover their *****. But you guys saying there is no need to draw and fire at the range cuz someone might get hurt sounds like the the antis saying we don't need guns cuz they can hurt people.

Folks are sayin you can practice drawing at home is the same as the range, i say negative imo. Drawing then firing a live round and making it on target, especially when the first round DA, takes practice.

When I first got my gun DA was a challenge but became pretty good at it, first got my holster and practice getting the draw down took a littlw while to get the motions down pat, string those 2 together and firing a round from DA felt like I was new to shooting DA again.

Just my 2cents

Problem is what you might think is safe to you might be considered unsafe to someone else, just because you have done something over and over hundreds of times and have been fortunate enough to not have an accident does not necesarily deem that action safe. So the rules are set forth for just that reason and amoungst others as well. It's like that.

[CSACANNONEER]

I don't understand the hate for shooting from a holster, I you can do it safely, then what's the issue? Do it in a unsafe manner, then there theres a problem. If a range makes you take a class to be able to safely draw then that's fine, I understand the need to cover their *****. But you guys saying there is no need to draw and fire at the range cuz someone might get hurt sounds like the the antis saying we don't need guns cuz they can hurt people.

Folks are sayin you can practice drawing at home is the same as the range, i say negative imo. Drawing then firing a live round and making it on target, especially when the first round DA, takes practice.

When I first got my gun DA was a challenge but became pretty good at it, first got my holster and practice getting the draw down took a littlw while to get the motions down pat, string those 2 together and firing a round from DA felt like I was new to shooting DA again.

Just my 2cents

So, if you owned a range, would you ignore your insurance policy and just let everyone shoot from a holster? Would you hire an extra employee to certify that people who wanted to wear a holster ment your safety qualifications? What would you do if a noobie at your range saw an experinced shooter drawing from the holster and just thought it was OK for anyone to do it? Or, would you make a simple business decision to save money and headaches by not allowing anyone to even wear a holster? It really comes down to making safety rules so basic that the dumbest person you allow to use your range is still safe enough that no one will get hurt.

[Ibefuz]

I do believe I said that if a range allowed drawing from a holster then they could require a class be taken before they allowed to make sure they can draw safely. The range could issue a card to show when you check into a lane to that allows them to draw. NO class=NO card=NO holster. Simple. I understand if the insurance company saws no drawing period, but if insurance allows it but the managment says no, then that's another thing.

My local range allows patrons to draw, and the staff comes onto the line to to correct folks who need a little guidance or reminders. I have shot from a holster there for a little over 2years and no one has said anything to me yet because I practice safely, and on a few occasions I've had people to my direct left and right get talked to by the staff for drawing unsafely but not I.

[TKM]

Look at the other people at the range.

It's like looking at the other people on the bus. All you can say is "thank God they aint driving".

[Merc1138]

I do believe I said that if a range allowed drawing from a holster then they could require a class be taken before they allowed to make sure they can draw safely. The range could issue a card to show when you check into a lane to that allows them to draw. NO class=NO card=NO holster. Simple. I understand if the insurance company saws no drawing period, but if insurance allows it but the managment says no, then that's another thing.

My local range allows patrons to draw, and the staff comes onto the line to to correct folks who need a little guidance or reminders. I have shot from a holster there for a little over 2years and no one has said anything to me yet because I practice safely, and on a few occasions I've had people to my direct left and right get talked to by the staff for drawing unsafely but not I.

And some ranges do have classes and areas for people to do that. Not every range has the time/staff to provide classes or set aside an area. Ranges are not required to provide any of that. Maybe the range you go to pays more for it's insurance? Are you using "patrons" to refer to "members"? There are plenty of reasons that ranges all over the place don't allow it, and they don't have to. It's pretty simple. How do you know what the insurance policies for the ranges actually state? Why does it matter if the insurance allows it but the range doesn't? They're allowed to operate their business how they see fit within the boundaries of the law and what their customers are willing to pay for.

[zfields]

Hell....here in tx, we have loaded guns holstered...

Sent from my fingers, to your face.

[Bill I Am]

i go to 'Oaktreegunclub' and 'Place to Shoot', and they dont allow holstered handguns. WTF is up with that??? is it a safety issue or something? even if it is, a stupid person can still hurt someone even if they grab a loaded gun off a table..

Come and shoot the matches at deadwoodboys.org. You can either start with a holstered gun or from the low ready. (Personally, I go from the low ready because I have a Glock and think that I would blow my leg off if I pulled from the holster. Just me. )

[SanPedroShooter]

Hell....here in tx, we have loaded guns holstered...

Sent from my fingers, to your face.

HORROR!

I dont shoot at public ranges anyway.

I dont need a babysitter. Not that anyone else does, dont get me wrong. The public range and BLM is the same distance from the heart of south Los Angle-es for me, so why even bother.

I practice shooting and carrying a pistol for defense. A holster is how I carry one. Its just part of the deal.

[kentactic]

i dont know those ranges specifically but id be willing to bet leaving loaded guns laying on tables is a violation of range rules. Next the gun being pointed down range at all times that it is loaded reduces chances of accidents as the Range master can jump on you at the first sign of error.

All that said i dont waste money at those types of ranges.

[Arkangel]

Disengaging the thumb safety shouldn't make it fire unless he pulled the trigger, or the gun had a major malfunction. That being said, it seems more like a training issue and he didn't realize where his trigger finger would land in addition to sweeping the safety off early.

My point was that HE was the reason he shot himself, his confused muscle memory deactivated one safety and his poor training put his finger on the trigger.

He may have pulled an idiot move, but he still took responsibility for his actions and didn't blame the equipment.

[USMC 82-86]

Well from my personal experience. Some of the shooters that I have come across at the range are enough of a danger without a holster coming into play. Forget the holster, some of the people in the ranges are in serious need of muzzle awareness and handgun safety period!

I am all for new shooters being able to train as well as experienced shooters. As it was said earlier a lot of training can be done at home, magazine changes, clearing malfunctions, the draw and dryfire, using cover in the home. There is a lot that can be accomplished in the home using snap caps and a full length mirror. I think the most important thing that can be practiced and the most often overlooked thing that can practiced is SAFETY!

[The Gleam]

Because too many beginners try to do cowboy-shooting style quick-draws or "mall-ninja" tactical draws like it's a PS2 or Nintendo novelty, or something they saw in an action movie or on TV. And that's when the stupid results ensue. Actually, there are plenty of long-time gun owners that try the same, and do the same.