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  • CitaDeL
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    • May 2007
    • 5843

    Three Year Old Opens Gun Safes



    Discuss.



    Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

  • #2
    Ron-Solo
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    • Jan 2009
    • 8581

    Don't give him the combination?


    Also, there is a difference between a lock box and a "safe"
    Last edited by Ron-Solo; 07-29-2012, 12:38 AM.
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    • #3
      707electrician
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      • Dec 2010
      • 2889

      Not sure I understand
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      • #4
        CBruce
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 1993

        It's like my nightmare...need to check my safe real quick.

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        • #5
          Lone_Gunman
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          • Jan 2009
          • 8396

          So the guy taught his 3 year old how to break into gun lock boxes. There's some good parenting.

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          • #6
            The Virus
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            • May 2011
            • 1135

            a 3yr old can remember a 4 digit sequence???

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            • #7
              Rand B. Wilson
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 212

              sure.. but i bet his accuracy when shooting is teh suck ..
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                CitaDeL
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2007
                • 5843

                Well this didnt spawn much discussion.

                Two problems here- related to the same cause- the safes depicted are not secure.

                1) If a child can jimmy it open, so can any neighborhood thief.
                2) A child opened it with minimal effort and techniques that can be discovered through experimentation.



                Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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                • #10
                  cpiaaq
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 118

                  The problem: The locking solonoid mechanism can be mechanically disrupted into an open state by applying a sharp vertical acceleration. The three-year-old used in testing achieved this by picking the safe a few inches off the ground and dropping it. The mechanism design is common across models and manufacturers. (taken from the slashdot discussion here: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/07...pen-a-gun-safe)


                  The original article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebe...hree-year-old/

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                  • #11
                    todd2968
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1674

                    Originally posted by cpiaaq
                    The problem: The locking solonoid mechanism can be mechanically disrupted into an open state by applying a sharp vertical acceleration. The three-year-old used in testing achieved this by picking the safe a few inches off the ground and dropping it. The mechanism design is common across models and manufacturers. (taken from the slashdot discussion here: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/07...pen-a-gun-safe)


                    The original article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebe...hree-year-old/
                    Good to know and I'll look at mine (which is screwed into my night stand)
                    But this guy taught his kid to use specific tools to show this
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                    • #12
                      CitaDeL
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2007
                      • 5843

                      Originally posted by todd2968
                      Good to know and I'll look at mine (which is screwed into my night stand)
                      But this guy taught his kid to use specific tools to show this
                      Yes. You are getting it. Now the troubled teenager that lives up the street from you has seen the video and learned how to use a wire hanger from your closet to get into your gun safe while you aren't home.
                      Last edited by CitaDeL; 07-29-2012, 10:16 AM.



                      Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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                      • #13
                        morfeeis
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 7605

                        Wasn't the tools the kid have access a NO NO too? Just a dumb *** parent all around if you ask me......
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                        • #14
                          dieselpower
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11471

                          There is no such thing as a "safe." There are boxes that SHOULD BE called, "takes awhile to get in", but none of them are "safes."

                          99% of ALL electronically locked boxes can be opened without the code. You simply remove the electronic combination pad, find the wires going to the locking mechanism and apply a voltage equal to the battery source.

                          I walked by a garage sale and saw a electronic lock box for sale at $10. I picked it up and felt something inside. I asked if the contents came with the box. She told me, "yes since no one knew the code". They didn't even know what was inside...it was owned by their now dead mother-in-law. Figuring I wasn't going to find a lost Shakespearian novel or a stack of money, I told the lady, "for $5 I would open it for her." I took out the 9V battery, pried away the keypad, found 4 wires leading to the keypad...2 from the battery and 2 going to the locking mechanism. I shorted the 2 wires leading to the lock across the 9V battery and the door opened. It contained bank statements and from what she read there was an unknown safety deposit box at a BofA in the valley.

                          I guess from seeing this video I could have just dropped it and done the same thing. :/

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                          • #15
                            Legasat
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4151

                            1. That is not a safe
                            2. If you have little kids and you trust something like that tinker toy to hold your firearms, you deserve what you get.
                            3. Kids are inquisitive. The burden is YOU, not the kids, not the "safe".
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