How's this shooting? Criticism welcome

[Mr_Monkeywrench]

Hey guys, I went to the range today and decided to try to work on my accuracy. Here's a pic of the target that I was using. The center target was done at 15 yards with 10 rounds. Bottom left was at 20 yards with 18 rounds. Bottom right was at 25 yards with 13 rounds.

I was using a Sig Sauer P229 9mm winchester white box 100 round value pack. These were all single action shots free standing (no rest). Let me know if there's anything I can do to improve my groups. Thanks.

[bigmike82]

If you're shooting for tight groups, work on your technique more. Your middle target is okay except for the vertical outliers. The rest are likely due to incorrect grip or jerking the pistol.

See this for more info:

http://www.centerfiretraining.com/id15.html

What I would do is shoot slowly (no more than one round every five seconds or so), relax your grip (IF you feel your pistol shaking even a little bit), relax in general and *slowly* squeeze the trigger. That helps me a lot, anyway...your mileage may vary.

Most importantly, however, virtually all those shots are center mass so don't be discouraged. Work on the basics (over and over and over and over again), and you should see those groups tighten up.

[Mr_Monkeywrench]

Thanks for the advice. I did notice my hands shaking. I have an issue with that. Doc said I can take med to chill it out, but Ill pass until I go Michael J. Fox. For now I'll practice until I get it right. I was shooting in kind of a quick repetition....Sights on target, fire, reset, sights on target, immediate follow up shot, reset, continue... I did this until I spent the mag.

I guess I should slow down my shots and maybe grip a little lighter to compensate for the shaking.

Thank you.

[9mmepiphany]

It is hard to make suggestions without seeing you shoot or at least seeing a picture of the grip you are using.

As a generalization, it does appear they you are over gripping the gun and likely tightening the grip of your strong hand as you press the trigger.

Which thumb position are you using?

I was shooting in kind of a quick repetition....Sights on target, fire, reset, sights on target, immediate follow up shot, reset, continue... I did this until I spent the mag.

That isn't a bad cadence, but I'd limit my strings of fire to 3-5 rounds

[Shenaniguns]

Are you sure that's yards and not feet? Brea's indoor range only goes to 50 feet.

[The Virus]

If you are wanting to be a bullseye shooter then it sucks.
If you are concerned with defense it looks like they would all be combat effective.

[jakuda]

At 25 yards, learn to shoot through your shaking hands. At 25 yards, let the target be blurry and just focus on sight alignment. Ignore where the sights are in relation to the black bullseye, and focus on your trigger pull. Once you start the pull, finish it smoothly, or put down the gun and reset.

Try shooting at 25 yards on a completely blank target (shoot on the blank side of a normal target). Just aim at the middle of the paper; don't try to aim for a hole. You'll find you can group pretty well. The bullseye just serves as a distraction to try to snatch a perfect shot.

(note, that all this advice is from a bullseye shooter point of view, focusing on fundamentals, not speed and tactical)

[9mmepiphany]

Are you sure that's yards and not feet? Brea's indoor range only goes to 50 feet.

If those distances were feet instead of yards, I'd say your grip needs a lot of tweaking.

I just worked with a client this last weekend, whose groups went from 8" to 3" by just tweaking his grip and with some trigger control work we got it down to dropping the round son each other at 5 yards (15')

[Shenaniguns]

If those distances were feet instead of yards, I'd say your grip needs a lot of tweaking.

I just worked with a client this last weekend, whose groups went from 8" to 3" by just tweaking his grip and with some trigger control work we got it down to dropping the round son each other at 5 yards (15')

I had a hunch that someone asking those questions is relatively new to shooting and that shooting at 25 yards for a new untrained shooter is not easy.

[tbc]

Are you sure that's yards and not feet? Brea's indoor range only goes to 50 feet.

How do you know it's Brea's indoor range?

OP,
just FYI, the black circle on your target at 25 yards away from you is smaller than the white dot of your front site.
Still nice groups though.


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[Shenaniguns]

How do you know it's Brea's indoor range?

OP,
just FYI, the black circle on your target at 25 yards away from you is smaller than the white dot of your front site.
Still nice groups though.


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I dunno, it's written on the target.

[tbc]

Ah. Didn't pay close attention.


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[9mmepiphany]

the black circle on your target at 25 yards away from you is smaller than the white dot of your front site.

That is one of the major reasons you shouldn't aim by covering your intended POI with your front sight

[tbc]

That is one of the major reasons you shouldn't aim by covering your intended POI with your front sight

Yep. I am in the process of changing my HKs factory sights from image 3 to image 2. I would like to use image 1 but I have to file down the front sights which I am too afraid I may mess up. Thanks again 9mm.




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[bigmike82]

Yeah, if your hands are shaking, relax your grip a bit. I find that the tighter I grip the pistol, the worse I shoot. relax and take your time..your groups should shrink.