High school students arrested with guns

[Patriot]

Once more, the Zero Tolerance / Dress Code Nazi / 'Anything That Remotely Resembles A Firearm Is Utterly Evil' folk make the world safe for democracy

[Patriot]

The story doesn't say where exactly they were found. I am assuming they were on their person. No real difference between an airsoft and a C02 bb gun as far as damage. they are moving the projectile at roughly the same velocity.

IIRC copper BBs are small in diameter and signficantly more dense than 6mm plastic airsoft BBs. 4.5mm & 5-6 grams copper BBs vs 0.12-0.2 gram 6mm airsoft BBs. At a sufficient velocity, the copper BBs are significantly more dangerous (but of course still QUITE anemic in the grand scheme of things ).

[sloguy]

The story doesn't say where exactly they were found. I am assuming they were on their person. No real difference between an airsoft and a C02 bb gun as far as damage. they are moving the projectile at roughly the same velocity.

unless i am mistaken, an airgun is legally considered a firearm if it shoots a metal projectile. airsoft are not because they fire plastic only.

so.... that makes sense if one was airsoft. felony and misdemeanor.

[Spiggy]

it was probably one of those wally-world specials spraypainted black.

-gives a bad name to mainstream airsoft

[odysseus]

so.... that makes sense if one was airsoft. felony and misdemeanor.

Doesn't make any sense to me, no matter how you cut it. It's PC BS.

[Waingro]

AirSoft is considered a toy = Red/orange tip on end

BB Gun = "Never point this at anyone", Not a toy, no red/orange tip.

Go to Big 5.

[bohoki]

unless i am mistaken, an airgun is legally considered a firearm if it shoots a metal projectile. airsoft are not because they fire plastic only.

so.... that makes sense if one was airsoft. felony and misdemeanor.

i was under the impression that a firearm is a device that expells a projectile through the use of a burning propellent

i consider air pressure porjectile launchers air-guns

[USN CHIEF]

Well, at least it was not as stupid as that lil girl that got arrested for bringing a lil stak knife to school to eat her stak Stupid time we are living in.

[jamesob]

well some schools have a no gang color code, especially bandanas. hince gang attire. second there are some pellet guns that shoot a 1000 fps. wich possibly could cause death, far fetched but possible. i dont want to be shot buy a pellet guns that shoots that hard. and also when police right a report its very important that they describe in their report where and how they found the items. so when it goes to court the defense can't say that it wasn't found in the blue bandana it was in a brown paper bag, making the police officer a lier or unreliable. so the bandana was just in the report and has nothing to do with the story for the public, but in court its a differnt story. i was a cop for 5 years and the defense has ways of making you look bad when you did nothing wrong and can get the guys off because of one small detail.

[Spiggy]

AirSoft is considered a toy = Red/orange tip on end

BB Gun = "Never point this at anyone", Not a toy, no red/orange tip.

Go to Big 5.

my shop treats it as "Handle all guns as if loaded, hot, and fires live ammo"

It's not a toy when it becomes an instrument of crime. Likewise, firearms are not criminals when they are used as instruments of crime.

[Pthfndr]

Pic of the guns brought to the school.

They look real enough that if some banger looking dude pointed one at me I'd start shooting.




From another article about it.

But police soon determined the guns were "fake".
"One is classified as an Airsoft pistol the other is a standard pellet gun or BB gun," said police Sgt. Matt Young.

Young said the guns are "very realistic and it would be nearly impossible for even a trained individual such as a police officer to make the distinction between one of these types of guns and a real firearm."

In a rare move, police showed off the guns. "We want people to see just how real they look," said Young. "Our biggest fear is that an officer mistakes them for a real firearm."


Three students were taken into custody and arrested, said Young. He said one sophomore in possession of a BB gun was charged with possession of a prohibited weapon on educational grounds. A second sophomore found with an Airsoft gun was cited on suspicion of disturbing the peace and released. A third person was arrested for resisting arrest, said Young.

[berg]

Guns in high school http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUTAtGO56C8

[Waingro]

my shop treats it as "Handle all guns as if loaded, hot, and fires live ammo"

It's not a toy when it becomes an instrument of crime. Likewise, firearms are not criminals when they are used as instruments of crime.

Point is that Airsoft is treated more as a hobby, you can shoot other people with it. Hence the red tip. A BB Gun with no red tip can be used for killing birds and such and has much higher velocities. Read the box on a BB gun, "Never point at someone" Airsoft people shoot each other all the time. Thats most likely why they were charged differently.

[odysseus]

Point is that Airsoft is treated more as a hobby, you can shoot other people with it. Hence the red tip. A BB Gun with no red tip can be used for killing birds and such and has much higher velocities. Read the box on a BB gun, "Never point at someone" Airsoft people shoot each other all the time. Thats most likely why they were charged differently.

There is no confusion there. However do you agree a BB gun is worth a felony?

[Spiggy]

the point I want to draw out is that regardless the fact that each has a different "classification" is that both guns were used in a threatening manner. despite the fact that each can cause different degrees of damage, the sheer fact that they used it to carry out a crime should be enough to charge them equally. Orange tips or not, it should be treated as a live weapon.

Even in the professional airsoft community, each gun is held in regards that it is a weapon first, a toy second.

A stressed officer will view it as a weapon first, the details don't matter if they're used in crime. It's much like comparing a bat vs a warclub in the same circumstances. If you threaten someone with it, you're down for a world of hurt by the law, even if the bat has a sporting purpose, it is a weapon first.