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  • lear60man
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 903

    Bullet coming apart inside chamber?

    At the range yesterday and loaded up my SCAR. 'Click' ?? Reracked and 'click'. Opened it up and found that the first bullet 'Click number one' had come apart inside the upper and dumped a boat load of firing powder everywhere. That gun was done for the day as I didnt have any cleaning fluid.

    Never had this happen.

    BTW they were reloads from Oak Tree Gun club. Great place to shoot but I think ill be buying factory from now on.
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    CSACANNONEER
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    Bullet coming apart? Do you mean that the bullet separated from the case or the actual bullet fell into pieces? If you just mean that the bullet came out of the cartridge, it sounds like there was either a COAL problem or not enough crimp. In either case, I've seen factory rounds do the same thing. In fact, it was not too many years ago when more than a couple calgunners had their .223/5.56 rifles blow up while shooting factory Remington ammo without flash holes.

    When it come to shooting "reloads" or "handloads", I much prefer them to shooting factory ammo. But, I shoot my own reloads which tend to be much more precise than most, if not all, "factory" ammo. That said, reloads which are loaded by commercial reloaders, for the purpose of making a profit, tend to have many more issues than "factory" ammo or good handloads.
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    • #3
      lear60man
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 903

      Sorry for not clarifying, the bullet fell out of the case some time during the chambering process. It must have just fell out the barrel.........thankfully it only left a mess and didnt fire.

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      • #4
        sammy
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 3847

        So you chambered a round, then extracted it and the bullet came off or the bullet came out of the casing while chambering the round?

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        • #5
          smalltime
          Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 208

          Not enough neck tension, undersized bullet or case failure. Ammo's fault.

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          • #6
            gbp
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            • Jul 2006
            • 714

            just rince it out with a hose, air dry and spray it with shooters choice. good to go

            nk tension would be my 1st choice
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            • #7
              Diabolus
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 4721

              You're lucky the bullet did not get seating into the case and get an over pressure situation. I've seen that happen from bad reloads.

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              • #8
                lear60man
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 903

                Originally posted by sammy
                So you chambered a round, then extracted it and the bullet came off or the bullet came out of the casing while chambering the round?
                Exactly. When I cleared the chamber the suspect offending casing went flying into the bushes. Im assuming the bullet just fell out the business end.

                Anyway...flooded the whole thing with pressurized WD40 and the little straw attachment. Cleaned, re-oiled. Presto Chango...everything works as advertized. It was kinda amazing to see how much gunpowder was flowing out of the end of the barrel during cleaning. Just when you think it was clean enough, some more would flow out. Used half a large can of WD40. But the last two douching's were all clear of debris.

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                • #9
                  SocomM4
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2187

                  Do not load your rifle again until you check your barrel . I'm amazed your rifle didn't explode on the second click. Reading that gave me a sick feeling. Any time you have a FTF, be double sure the round comes out intact. A bullet can't just fall through a barrel . Lol
                  Last edited by SocomM4; 06-18-2012, 9:22 PM.
                  Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                  maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
                  Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                  I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
                  Originally posted by Ride Madone
                  It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.

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                  • #10
                    BrokerB
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5368

                    Don't EVER buy anyones reloads is my opinion . Not worth the risk and i can guarantee you their liability and guarantee is no where near a manufacturers . I used to buy reloads by the thousands in the early 90's ....dam near every exploding gun you see was caused by somebodys reload

                    Wd-40? in a gun ?
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                    • #11
                      BKinzey
                      OT Banned
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2009
                      • 4390

                      Originally posted by SocomM4
                      Do not load your rifle again until you check your barrel . I'm amazed your rifle didn't explode on the second click. Reading that gave me a sick feeling. Any time you have a FTF, be double sure the round comes out intact. A bullet can't just fall through a barrel . Lol
                      Do not load your rifle again until you check your barrel!

                      Yes, actually takes a little effort to push a round through a barrel. It won't just fall through.

                      WD-40 can be used as a cleaner but it is not a good firearm lubricant.
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                      • #12
                        SocomM4
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 2187

                        Not just any gun. WD/40 in a SCAR a puppy died somewhere for that...
                        Last edited by SocomM4; 06-18-2012, 11:38 PM.
                        Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                        maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
                        Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                        I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
                        Originally posted by Ride Madone
                        It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.

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                        • #13
                          IntoForever
                          CGSSA Associate
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 3891

                          Find the bullet and see if there are grooves on it, would indicate improper seating depth. Also, make sure you let Tom or Brian at OTGC know, they will make sure their reloader knows there was a problem.
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                          • #14
                            dwtt
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7470

                            Originally posted by lear60man
                            At the range yesterday and loaded up my SCAR. 'Click' ?? Reracked and 'click'. Opened it up and found that the first bullet 'Click number one' had come apart inside the upper and dumped a boat load of firing powder everywhere. .
                            Was there a strike mark on the primer? This doesn't sound right because the primer should have still went off and you would hear a small bang.

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                            • #15
                              lear60man
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 903

                              Originally posted by dwtt
                              Was there a strike mark on the primer? This doesn't sound right because the primer should have still went off and you would hear a small bang.
                              Lemme answer a few of these. Dont know if there was a strike on the primer on the first round as the case went flying into the bushes. I was on the far right edge of the rifle lane (bushes to the right). I did the normal thing: re racked the bolt. I was thinking it might of been a dud. When the second bullet didnt fire was when the show was over. I recovered the second bullet and there was NO strike mark. I took a look inside the chamber and gunpowder was everywhere...stuck to the bolt etc. No way the firing pin could have made contact due to contamination. As to why the first round didnt fire and came apart is a mystery. My working theory is that it came apart while racking, dumped powder and clogged up the bolt face preventing a strike.

                              Socom WD is not my cleaning fluid of choice by any means. Over time, if used regularly, it will gum up internals. It works as a quick and dirty once in a blue moon displacement fluid. But everything was cleaned/oiled properly with solvent then oil after the WD.

                              BK done and done. Barrel was snaked, cleaned and shiny as new.

                              I went over the rest of the purchased rounds. Despite some seating depth variances, the rest of the batch I bought look OK.

                              Just want to throw out there that my first time at OTGC was great. Nice facility and very professional staff, especially the Range Masters. S**t happens and In no way do I want to imply that they sell bad reloads. Hell It could have been an equipment failure on my equipment.

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