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Yes sir, it is.
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The legality of it (per the Tannerite people themselves) boils down to whether Tannerite is endothermic or exothermic.
I have a hard time believing that anything that goes boom is endothermic, but I'm not a chemist.....and you won't convince a jury that it isn't an explosive.
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^ Classic! CA sux!
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Here's the Penal Code section that says possession of an explosive or combination of substances with the intent to make an explosive is a felony...
and here's the section that defines "explosive" as mentioned in CPC 18720...CPC Section 18720. Every person who possesses any substance, material, or any combination of substances or materials, with the intent to make any destructive device or any explosive without first obtaining a valid permit to make that destructive device or explosive, is guilty of a felony, and is punishable by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for two, three, or four years.
CPC Section 16510. As used in subdivision (a) of Section 16460 and Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 18710) of Division 5 of Title 2, "explosive" means any substance, or combination of substances, the primary or common purpose of which is detonation or rapid combustion, and which is capable of a relatively instantaneous or rapid release of gas and heat, or any substance, the primary purpose of which, when combined with others, is to form a substance capable of a relatively instantaneous or rapid release of gas and heat...__________________
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The stuff is sold all over CA, if it is illegal then (atleast at this point) the DOJ doesn't care. I bought some at a store in Santa Barbara and had a blast with it a few weeks ago. Also, Top Shot uses it. And no just because they have a TV show doesn't necessarily give them the right to break the law and if it sold all over the state I seriously doubt that they got the permits solely for tannerite.Comment
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It seems as if we live in the gray state, almost everything is a gray area, designed so that the DOJ and local LEO/DAs can just randomly arrest us for almost anything having to do with guns/shooting/explosives. They won't rule, they just wait and then some local DA decides to have some fun and make an example of one of us. Very Orwellian.NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer
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So, in CA, possession of gasoline and a spark plug is a felony?Here's the Penal Code section that says possession of an explosive or combination of substances with the intent to make an explosive is a felony...
and here's the section that defines "explosive" as mentioned in CPC 18720...
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I'm telling you that DOJ hasn't cared because it wasn't on their radar.
Recent arrests make that no longer true.
In any case, some people are going to have very costly criminal defenses to mount. I suspect that it will be something of a miracle if they don't end up as felons and lose their rights for life.
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Sounds like there is a bunch of FUD out there on the subject.Comment
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It is my understanding (and correct me if I'm wrong) that part of the "explosive device" in question that makes it so, is the detonator. (blasting cap, etc) So since you are shooting it to set it off, its not technically an explosive device. I.E "Bomb"Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
Willard: I'm a soldier.
Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
Apocalypse Now!"The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
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Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
Willard: I'm a soldier.
Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
Apocalypse Now!"The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
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Haha yeah. But for the sake of argument lets say you stuck the Spark Plug into the full Gas can, then remotely set it off with an electrical source and some wire?
Gotcha! a "device" was created and used in an un-kosher like fashion.
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Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
Willard: I'm a soldier.
Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
Apocalypse Now!"The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
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