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  • flak88mm
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 900

    Buying an AK online

    I havent kept up to date with the new gun laws but we can still buy AKs online and get them sent to our FFL correct? I am looking at buying a WASR so it has a slanted brake which is not considered a flash hider but it has a pistol grip. So the seller just has to remove the pistol grip when they ship it to the FFL right?
  • #2
    Garbcollector
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 2436

    Just have your ffl slap a fin grip on it and you'll be good to go

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    • #3
      flak88mm
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 900

      How about just getting the pistol grip removed before shipment?

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57174

        Originally posted by flak88mm
        I havent kept up to date with the new gun laws but we can still buy AKs online and get them sent to our FFL correct?
        I am looking at buying a WASR so it has a slanted brake which is not considered a flash hider but it has a pistol grip.
        So the seller just has to remove the pistol grip when they ship it to the FFL right?
        The gun needs to be compliant before it comes into CA unless you are having the gun ship to a CA dangerous weapons permit holder dealer for the conversion work

        The simplest conversion is to remove all the features which would be the pistol grip on a typical WASR-10.
        The seller can include the pistol grip with the gun, it just should not be installed on the gun.

        An alternative for an AK would be to go fixed magazine by having the seller install a CompMag.
        Then you can keep the pistol grip.
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        • #5
          Reno-Kid
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2021
          • 2820

          Originally posted by flak88mm
          How about just getting the pistol grip removed before shipment?
          Yup, not difficult to shot without a Pistol grip. Add a Phoenix or Zandelay as featureless grip.







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          • #6
            flak88mm
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 900

            Another question, if I get it shipped w/o a pistol grip and I buy a grip with a fin, I dont have to get that sent to an FFL correct? I saw something online that parts to make your rifle ca compliant are now considered gun parts.

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            • #7
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19754

              +1 on the gun needs to be compliant before it enters the state of CA.
              If you know the seller, send them $30 more and a link to the fin grip or a hammer head ( if still legal)

              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #8
                morrcarr67
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 15048

                Originally posted by flak88mm
                Another question, if I get it shipped w/o a pistol grip and I buy a grip with a fin, I dont have to get that sent to an FFL correct? I saw something online that parts to make your rifle ca compliant are now considered gun parts.
                Parts; including compliance parts, now have restrictions on them by the state.

                For an online vendor to be able to ship these restricted items, they must now get a copy of your state ID, ship only to the address on your ID and require that YOU sign for the package on delivery. There are vendors that don't want to go through all this extra work to sell to a CA resident. Make sure the vendor you want to buy from will ship to you.

                If they won't ship directly to you, they can ship it to your LGS for pick up. You will need to verify with your LGS that they will receive this package and what if any their fee would be for such service.
                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                Originally posted by Erion929

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                • #9
                  morrcarr67
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 15048

                  Originally posted by hermosabeach
                  +1 on the gun needs to be compliant before it enters the state of CA.
                  If you know the seller, send them $30 more and a link to the fin grip or a hammer head ( if still legal)

                  https://a.co/d/06q6XXmm
                  The nice thing about that is that the buyer could have that sent directly to the OOS vendor to put on the rifle before shipping it. Of course, the OOS vendor would have to be willing to receive it and put it on.
                  Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                  Originally posted by Erion929

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                  • #10
                    Dan_Eastvale
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 10723

                    No small print “no sales to California”?

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                    • #11
                      flak88mm
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 900

                      Hi guys, so finally it has taken me all this time to start buying this AK. But now the one I am looking at has a pistol grip and the foregrip. It has a slanted brake which is not an assault weapon feature. But I saw something online or maybe the rules/laws have changed that simply if the out of state FFL ships to my CA FFL with pistol grip and foregrip detached in same package as the rifle, that the law looks at it as still illegal since technically you can still build it into an assault weapon configuration. Is this the case now? I proposed to the out of state FFL that I recommended a fixed mag (comp kit) and I can have all those features attached still.

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                      • #12
                        BrokerB
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5443

                        Isnt this bull****? Im still of the opinion that politicians who wrote these unconstitutional laws should be tar'd and feathered.
                        how hot is the tar? : )
                        Beans and Bullets

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                        • #13
                          flak88mm
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 900

                          Anyway I bought an md63 from an ffl in ut and its on its way to my ffl. Seller was glad enough to convert it to ca compliance. Very solid looking rifle, was a romanian military service rifle with the faded coat like it was in the battlefields. It also has a new chrome lined barrel.

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                          • #14
                            arrix
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4516

                            Originally posted by flak88mm
                            Anyway I bought an md63 from an ffl in ut and its on its way to my ffl. Seller was glad enough to convert it to ca compliance. Very solid looking rifle, was a romanian military service rifle with the faded coat like it was in the battlefields. It also has a new chrome lined barrel.
                            So what did you end up doing to be CA compliant?
                            There is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country, if the people lose their supreme confidence in themselves -- and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance -- Tyranny may always enter -- there is no charm, no bar against it -- the only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.

                            -Walt Whitman

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