New gun classified site

[morrcarr67]

I'm not connected to this site, I just found out about the Oklahoma version and thought I'd share the CA version with you. There's not much listed, but maybe that will change.

https://gunscalifornia.com/

[Eat Dirt]

Interesting, Always nice look at other gun ads

[The Gleam]

Good to know - we'll need more options other than scam-filled Armslist, the iffy security of Manny's piss-poor management of GunAuction.com, the Leninist bent of cacaguns...

...and now Gunbroker is deactivating long-time loyal members on their site (should you make any change at all) and requiring you to be 'verified' by loading a scan/copy of a government issued photo-ID to a link they provide, showing your name and address, requiring that it matches your account's billing address, AND with a supporting utility bill or other document that also shows that address in your name, AND a photo of you with the aforementioned ID.

More than 25 years on Gunbroker, same username, hundreds of purchases, 100% feedback, always pay immediately (I only buy from local sellers that use Gunbroker where I pay cash and pick-up at their facility or store in person - I don't use Gunbroker's payment system and I don't put a credit-card on file - no need to as I never sell anything on their site and never pay sellers from whom I purchase through their site and it's not a requirement to use their site.)

I've been 'verified' all those years, never a problem, always active - and they pulled that crap on me last week when I sought to change the ship-to address to my office as I was looking to buy something that didn't need to go to an FFL (scope) and the seller required a USPS Money Order or check, so no need for a credit card on file with Gunbroker.

With that attempted change, they deactivated my account, logged me as 'no longer a registered user' - and no amount of explaining the situation to them through their retarded closed loop email contact (only) vexxed with their inane autobot repeat one-liner replies can get it simply reversed back to the previous address I was using for the past 25 years. Trying to simply start a new account is even worse.

If you can't verify the new temporary address you wanted to use by the 3-part over-reaching protocol they require - there's no going back.

And I would never store my home address in their drives - I've only ever used the address of my office or the FFL's address, and there's no need to have any other address for how I buy and pay.

They've already been hacked twice in the past where some bad actors tried phishing attempts on me by email, using information they could have only gotten by extracting it from Gunbroker's archives, as it exclusively was used on Gunbroker only.

They are going to see a huge deficit in sales from California arise next month due to AB1263 and SB704 If they don't be more flexible.

Fvck 'em for all I care at this point - looking at their new roster of executives, they all sound like a bunch of techy Leftist dolts that don't give a damn about firearms or the 2nd Amendment one way or the other - it's just a social media techy business outlet for them, maybe trying to turn it into a Fakebook for guns, and seems they would just as happily run an auction site selling Barbies, Beanie-Babies, dildos, and Pokeman cards.

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[morrcarr67]

The Gleam I changed my address back in September when I moved to Oklahoma and I didn't have to go through any of that. I guess I got it done before they started that.

I had heard about all their new BS for sellers, but never for buyers. It's too bad they've gone all Brady on the community.

[The Gleam]

The Gleam I changed my address back in September when I moved to Oklahoma and I didn't have to go through any of that. I guess I got it done before they started that.

I had heard about all their new BS for sellers, but never for buyers. It's too bad they've gone all Brady on the community.

It must be a recent thing: I briefly changed my ship-to address to my offices in July when I had bought an 1884 Trapdoor from a seller on Gunbroker. As it was an antique, it could ship to me direct, no FFL needed. I sent him a check received it, and no issues.

Before my next purchase from one of the FFL sellers from whom I often purchase, I changed the ship-to back to their FFL address - around early August. No issues with that cjange either.

I'm not sure what their mindset is, because no other auction sites require this much BS from longtime buyers with 100% feedback. From a seller, yes, because they must collect their fees, log taxes, probably send a 1099, etc.

But no reason to require this of long-time members that buy only, never sell, and never pay through their system.

It's only going to hurt their sellers, and will certainly reduce sales volume and completed auction prices if they're blocking someone like myself.

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[Spyder]

Good to know - we'll need more options other than scam-filled Armslist, the iffy security of Manny's piss-poor management of GunAuction.com, the Leninist bent of cacaguns...

...and now Gunbroker is deactivating long-time loyal members on their site (should you make any change at all) and requiring you to be 'verified' by loading a scan/copy of a government issued photo-ID to a link they provide, showing your name and address, requiring that it matches your account's billing address, AND with a supporting utility bill or other document that also shows that address in your name, AND a photo of you with the aforementioned ID.

Anyone else see the comedy of complaining about scammy sites and then going on a tirade about a site that is making an effort to prevent scams?

[The Gleam]

Anyone else see the comedy of complaining about scammy sites and then going on a tirade about a site that is making an effort to prevent scams?

I figured some doof in the front row of the peanut gallery would note that connection, if that person didn't read all the points I cited and took it as a 'theme' instead of in context.

Preventing scams is hardly their goal if you knew the background motivation as to why they are doing this. I suspect, and it's not far fetched, that as a publicly traded company that is being overtaken by the kind of dweebs similar to that socialist vermin that runs cacaguns, their goal is to soon require ALL payments go through their website, and they will require a payment method to both sell AND buy on Gunbroker, and you can bet they will set up a 'deduction' wallet model from your bank account or credit card like Ebay and Amazon have.

I fully suspect that is their long range goal, coming in 2026 - and you won't be able to pay cash, check, or USPS Money Order - you'll be required to have a bank account or crefit-card on file, or use a proprietary 'payment app' they create. Just wait for it.

How's that for comedy?

I have already provided all of my information to Gunbroker in the past, and did so again - and I would only agree and state that makes sense for anyone newly joining, or re'verifying someone who has had bad feedback/non-payment arise at any time, or for anyone that wants to use Gunbroker's payment system to pay by credit card or funds transfer, or someone selling, or wants to sell, that is COLLECTING money.

I am none of those things. As a 'Reading for Dummy's' refresher:

- I've been a 'verified' user on Gunbroker for over 25 years.
- I have had the same username, email address, and bill to address all those 25 years.
- Gunbroker has my legitimate name, phone numbers, business address, and mailing address, AND I provided it to tjem again when requested.
- I have over 700 positive feedback as a buyer from multiple sellers.
- I have never sold a thing on Gunbroker and have no plans to do so - so I can't 'scam' anyone.
- I never paid through Gunbroker or ever paid a seller by credit card.
- ALL my purchases have been from local sellers from whom I meet at their facility, pay cash and conduct the purchase in person - Gunbroker knows this and has prior record of it.
- Multiple unrelated sellers have confirmed the above.

And I have NO problem with Gunbroker verifying someone as an actual person, even the ID bit. The problem is that they are requiring the ID address to be your Bill-To address (tax qualifier) address and Ship-To address which is irrelevant to how I purchase on Gunbroker and that I have 25 years of hundreds of positive - the latter being more worthy 'verification' than just what an ID can provide. This issues for which they are concerned do not apply, and will be particularly relevant for California going forward - let alone the porch-pirate concern for non FFL items.

In any case, the loss is theirs, and for the sellers that use their site - not me. I can just as easily continue my purchasing interests from the live and direct auctions of Morphy's, Rock Island, Carol Watson's, Gunslingers, Heritage, Sotheby's, Lock, Stock & Barrel's Wyoming among many others and forget Gunbroker all together as if Gunbroker didn't exist at all.

Any more doofus comments?

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[GOEX FFF]

The Gleam I changed my address back in September when I moved to Oklahoma and I didn't have to go through any of that. I guess I got it done before they started that.

I had heard about all their new BS for sellers, but never for buyers. It's too bad they've gone all Brady on the community.

I changed mine also to our new TX address back in August. No issues for me either. 🤞

[Garbcollector]

Has anyone sold any firearms or parts on the marketplace recently? Curious if it has been completely overrun by scammers? Haven't sold anything in a long time

[morrcarr67]

Has anyone sold any firearms or parts on the marketplace recently? Curious if it has been completely overrun by scammers? Haven't sold anything in a long time

A member has reached out to me on something I have listed here. I just haven't been able to find it after the move.

[davidj]

Has anyone sold any firearms or parts on the marketplace recently? Curious if it has been completely overrun by scammers? Haven't sold anything in a long time

I personally know of 2 firearm transactions that have happened in the last 4 weeks. Also know of 3 others that happened about 4 months ago-I know both seller and buyers, items were high dollar pistols.

[jarhead714]

Just registered. Same handle.👀

[CraigHoliday]

This site is 1000% better. I moved here from Arizona and used to use the AZ chapter of this site. Same hosts. Great system.

[The Gleam]

The Gleam I changed my address back in September when I moved to Oklahoma and I didn't have to go through any of that. I guess I got it done before they started that.

I had heard about all their new BS for sellers, but never for buyers. It's too bad they've gone all Brady on the community.

Almost forgot about this thread; about 2 weeks later, it bugged me enough that I devised a little plan.

I sent separate emails to 3 of the top sellers of Gunbroker from whom I've purchased regularly over the past 25 years, noting that while I've bought hundreds of items from each during all that time, and regardless of me being one of their top buyers/bidders for each, my account was deactivated and it was my sad duty to report to each of them I would no longer be able to purchase from them on Gunbroker.

I specified in one of the emails that I had just bought a $10,000 firearm from one of them on Gunbroker just a week before my account was deactivated (which is true and could be seen in my purchase history) but apparently that would be my last purchase on Gunbroker.

I eked out what the emails were for the Gunbroker CEO, COO, CFO, head of Marketing, Head of IT, head of sales - and cc'ed all of them on each email.

Within 2 minutes of sending that email - no exaggeration, maybe was even less time than that - I got a call from their head consumer relations rep saying he was re-activating my account. And did. No need to jump through the hoops or provide my 'papers'.

So I'm good now.


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[morrcarr67]

Almost forgot about this thread; about 2 weeks later, it bugged me enough that I devised a little plan.

I sent separate emails to 3 of the top sellers of Gunbroker from whom I've purchased regularly over the past 25 years, noting that while I've bought hundreds of items from each during all that time, and regardless of me being one of their top buyers/bidders for each, my account was deactivated and it was my sad duty to report to each of them I would no longer be able to purchase from them on Gunbroker.

I specified in one of the emails that I had just bought a $10,000 firearm from one of them on Gunbroker just a week before my account was deactivated (which is true and could be seen in my purchase history) but apparently that would be my last purchase on Gunbroker.

I eked out what the emails were for the Gunbroker CEO, COO, CFO, head of Marketing, Head of IT, head of sales - and cc'ed all of them on each email.

Within 2 minutes of sending that email - no exaggeration, maybe was even less time than that - I got a call from their head consumer relations rep saying he was re-activating my account. And did. No need to jump through the hoops or provide my 'papers'.

So I'm good now.


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That's awesome. Glad they were able to see the errors of their actions.