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  • PascoePete
    Junior Member
    • May 2025
    • 5

    Has anyone ever de-registered a California Assault Rifle?

    Hi,
    Has anyone ever de-registered an assault rifle with the California DOJ?

    Peter
    Last edited by PascoePete; 06-27-2025, 2:42 PM. Reason: Misspelling
  • #2
    morrcarr67
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2010
    • 15018

    Originally posted by PascoePete
    Hi,
    Has any ever re-registered an assault rifle with the California DOJ?

    Peter
    If it's a banned by name rifle there's no way to de-register it.

    If it was registered based on features you can de-register it.

    Originally posted by CA DOJ

    If the characteristics that make my firearm a category 3 assault weapon are removed, can I cancel the registration? Can I sell it as regular (non-assault weapon) firearm?

    Yes. If the defining characteristics establishing a firearm as a category 3 assault weapon are removed, it is no longer an assault weapon and the registration may be canceled. However, once the registration is canceled, you can never replace the characteristic(s) that make it an assault weapon, or you will be in possession of an illegal weapon. To cancel an assault weapon registration, contact DOJ at (916) 227-2153. Once the registration has been canceled, the firearm can be sold or transferred like any other firearm (non-assault weapon).

    Assault Weapons and .50 BMG Quick Links to Topics General FAQs “Other” Assault Weapons Military Assault Weapons Bullet Button Assault Weapons General FAQs What is considered an assault weapon under California law? What are AK and AR-15 series weapons? What is considered a .50 BMG rifle under California law? Can assault weapons and .50 BMG rifles still be registered? I already paid the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) fee and went through a DOJ record check when I purchased the firearm. Does that satisfy the registration requirement?

    Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

    Originally posted by Erion929

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    • #3
      MountainLion
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 508

      Originally posted by PascoePete
      Hi,
      Has any ever re-registered an assault rifle with the California DOJ?

      Peter
      For many years, I kept thinking that nobody had ever done it successfully. I think Bill Wiese had the same observation. But a few months ago, someone reported on Reddit or CaGuns that they had done it, including an acknowledgement from the DoJ.
      meow

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      • #4
        PascoePete
        Junior Member
        • May 2025
        • 5

        Is there a pointer to the information in Reddit or CaGuns such as a title.
        I would like to read it.
        Peter

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        • #5
          The Gleam
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 12388

          Originally posted by MountainLion

          For many years, I kept thinking that nobody had ever done it successfully. I think Bill Wiese had the same observation. But a few months ago, someone reported on Reddit or CaGuns that they had done it, including an acknowledgement from the DoJ.
          While it's difficult to perform successful searches on Calguns now days for older threads/posts, I recall at least 3 different threads providing anecdotes on Calguns members that de-registeted their 'SB23' features-banned guns that were not subjest to Roberti-Roos.

          Some type of confirmation from the DOJ was received some 6 months later or so (pre-COVID), if I recall correctly.

          And yet all were in agreement that it seemed that the DOJ was patronizing at best, that once on record, always on record - meaning, it's not as if the DOJ actually removes it from their AW tracking system, just that they would not be able to enforce all the extraneous BS that goes along with RAW items that are 'de-registered' (in theory) should something run afoul.

          Keep in mind, registration is really about registering who is a gun owner - they don't really care about registering the gun itself.

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          Last edited by The Gleam; 06-27-2025, 10:34 PM.
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          Originally posted by Librarian
          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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          • #6
            TrappedinCalifornia
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2018
            • 9160

            You might want to note this thread...

            Deregistering a Bullet Button Registered Assault Weapon

            The one guy in that thread indicated that it took '2 years' to get an approval letter.

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            • #7
              MountainLion
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 508

              Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
              You might want to note this thread...

              Deregistering a Bullet Button Registered Assault Weapon

              The one guy in that thread indicated that it took '2 years' to get an approval letter.
              That's the one I remembered! Thank you for finding it.

              To The Gleams point: I do not remember seeing anyone else having successfully deregistered a RAW, but I don't doubt what you're saying; it just means that I missed it (and I think Bill also must have, at least at the time). Thank you for the reminder.
              meow

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              • #8
                donalli
                Member
                • May 2020
                • 153

                But why?

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                • #9
                  MountainLion
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 508

                  Originally posted by donalli
                  But why?
                  A few suggestions: To sell it within the state; to have someone in the state inherit it. You also become free of the requirements for transporting registered AWs.
                  meow

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                  • #10
                    GOEX FFF
                    ☆ North Texas ☆
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 6863


                    Originally posted by donalli
                    But why?
                    Originally posted by MountainLion

                    A few suggestions: To sell it within the state; to have someone in the state inherit it. You also become free of the requirements for transporting registered AWs.
                    Or...you're moving out of state and are 100% certain you're never bringing it back. There's zero reason to have it registered in CA anymore.
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                    • #11
                      smle-man
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10580

                      I had registered my MAS 49/56 because of the muzzle device. I replaced it with a complying device and de-registered it. DOJ wanted pictures of the rifle and then sent me a letter confirming de-registration.

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                      • #12
                        PascoePete
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2025
                        • 5

                        Sounds like SMLE-MAN has done it.
                        So I think rifles defined by characteristics has a path.

                        I briefly consulted with a lawyer who thought named rifle converted to single shot (non semi automatic) could be deregistered.
                        It would be worth hearing more about this.

                        Peter

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