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  • #16
    The Gleam
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 11155

    Originally posted by beerman
    I hear ya Gleam, I had to quit shooting at cigarettes a long time ago.😎
    In my case, I had to stop shooting at cigarettes, because the wife said I was getting closer and closer to taking off her nose each time.

    I'm no Bob Munden, but the audience loved it anyway.

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    Originally posted by Librarian
    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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    • #17
      beerman
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 4659

      Classic Gleam👍

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      • #18
        Thrashard340
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 859

        Originally posted by beerman
        From land use restrictions, to taxes, fees and regulations it’s painfully obvious alot of folks can’t afford to shoot anymore . The bump from $1 to $5 in ammo background checks is just the latest of a thousand cuts. 11% excise tax have to be putting gun shops out of business. These pr&@ks are winning. All I can say is I’m glad I reload, but I don’t know how most you guys manage this sport anymore. Just venting, I hate this state’s government.
        I think Cali is having limited success. If you live inland, Socal or basically outside of the Bay Area, you sill have decent options in terms of BLM, shooting ranges, guns/ammo stores that have been minimally impacted by all of the legislation in recent years. If you are in the Bay Area like me, my favorite outdoor range (Chabot) was basically shut down by anti-gunners. My observation is if Cali can't outright legislate gun bans, they will make it as cost prohibitive as possible. This is a discriminatory way to prevent lawful citizens in low income areas (or even lower middle class) from owning firearms.

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        • #19
          Batman
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 2367

          Originally posted by CessnaDriver
          The clowns hand over the rope to hang us on outdoor spots. Garbage, starting fires, lobbing rounds over hills. Makes it easy for them to get places shut down. Do other states have this problem too or do we enjoy having extra idiots here?
          We need to start identifying as Unhoused Shooters. There would be made an entire Homeless Shooters Industrial Complex, with advocates stating how being unhoused shooters isn't a crime, and that they should actually EXPAND the areas we can shoot! It worked for the homeless, for the drug addicts, and undocumented... why not us?

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          • #20
            hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 18969

            The old timers can list all the gun stores that are done.

            when was the last time a new range opened in LA

            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • #21
              Dan_Eastvale
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2013
              • 8981

              I'm sure it has for many gun owner shooting habits for whom money IS an object. Less range time, Less large quantity ammo use in each range session, and less ammo purchasing. This trend will worsen as more and more roadblocks are imposed by the state and cities.

              The only time this will significantly change or cease entirely will be if California somehow is able to make ownership and shooting illegal and subject to confiscation.

              That would take a Mamdani type Governor and Sacramento government.

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              • #22
                ar15robert
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2002
                • 2394

                Its a ca way to limit the sport.they dont care about rec shooting whatsoever.

                As for range prices here in az it aint much cheaper for indoor range you wiill still spend 25-30 bucks id rather put 15 in my truck and head to open desert 25 min away but right now stage 2 fire restrictions has it closed and ranges only option outdoor are very reasonable priced.

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                • #23
                  omega
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 3068

                  Im still sitting on my pre pandemic ammo , the prices never really came back to normal , the new norm is more than double the price plus extra fees

                  the only thing I can do is find new hobbies like biking , but they are going after PEVs and ebikes too

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