Current firearm 2nd hand market

[hermosabeach]

There is Used market... and then there is the very limited never sold in CA market.... Everyone is broke.... I think Gen 2 are rock solid as are gen 3....

Unless you are a department, no need to upgrade to Gen 4 or 5 for a common size gun.... Glock 42/43 is a different animal

[mossy]

What would be on the on rosters that are currently causing the 2011's / double stack 1911's to not move?

2011's were never as popular as the Internet likes to think they are. They are a competition gun built for a small percentage of the firearms market. Companies try to dress up 2011's as a tactical duty/ccw mass production firearms, but under all the tactical lipstick it's a competition gun that the majority of people are not interested in and the competitive shooters that do want a 2011 are not buying the "entry level" ones flooding the market.

[benjamin101677]

I volunteer at a gun shop and last 6 months the gun sales are closer to 2018-2019 sale numbers. The pandemic caused a lot of new first time buyers into the market that didn’t know about guns and pricing. Than other people saw empty gun shelves and brought at any price.

Without a fear of gun regulations increase; Trump in office there is most likely Not going panic buying so prices are going be lower than several years ago

[Citadelgrad87]

What would be on the on rosters that are currently causing the 2011's / double stack 1911's to not move?

320 X 5 Legion is the closest thing to a rostered 2011. Not sayings its close to one, but many think its close enough.

[DB>]

IMHO, the DOJ letting the microstamping requirement drop off (by failing to appeal the legal win against that single requirement to be on roster), it opened up the opprtunity for many "modern" current production guns to enter the market to meet the "utility" need for firearms.... but at the same time curbed the secondhand and off-roster markets through the availability of those "new" guns that were previously barred from the market b/c of microstamping requirements.

While the long running pangs of CGN may account for SOME softness (due to lack of a venue to buy/sell/trade), the "no L" site provided some access to a viable market, and there was softness in pricing evident there as well. Sales do happen, when the price is right or the firearm in question is sufficiently "valuable" to a buyer at a price a seller is willing to agree upon.

The average Joe who simply wants a "utility" firearm for HD/SD/etc. won't necessarily seek out a non-retail option for many reasons, but conversely, many who may balk at the 11% sin tax would do better on the secondhand market and maybe even learn to enjoy "sticking it to da man" by depriving our overlords of continuing revenue... When the government has their mitts all over what should be a free market through various legislative action, things are and will remain somewhat unpredictable!

[L.A. Saiga]

I think things have shifted more towards a buyer's market due to ecomony and also election results.

I agree. Covid / the election are in the rear view mirror...economy has softened...

A buyers market for real

[gose]

2011's were never as popular as the Internet likes to think they are. They are a competition gun built for a small percentage of the firearms market. Companies try to dress up 2011's as a tactical duty/ccw mass production firearms, but under all the tactical lipstick it's a competition gun that the majority of people are not interested in and the competitive shooters that do want a 2011 are not buying the "entry level" ones flooding the market.

And even with all the hype, a Staccato is just an STI....

[colossians323]

Whats the current market like for off roster firearms? I remember seeing gen 4 and gen 5 glocks regularly gonfor a premium right away on here... now it seems likentheyre sitting even below the $1k price points.
did the the used market soften? Or is it due to the site being down for so long?

Were Glocks really at $1000?

[colossians323]

2011's were never as popular as the Internet likes to think they are. They are a competition gun built for a small percentage of the firearms market. Companies try to dress up 2011's as a tactical duty/ccw mass production firearms, but under all the tactical lipstick it's a competition gun that the majority of people are not interested in and the competitive shooters that do want a 2011 are not buying the "entry level" ones flooding the market.

Speak for yourself kimosabe. I have one in my nightstand, I carry one every day, and I train with them with a 'gun club'.

Outside of California it is a different ball game. Maybe you're projecting?

[9Cal_OC]

Were Glocks really at $1000?

Yes, during the height of the scamdemic, Gen 3s were selling as high as $1000.

[colossians323]

Yes, during the height of the scamdemic, Gen 3s were selling as high as $1000.

Yowzer, I have trouble paying $500.00 for a Glock, couldn't imagine paying double that

[newshooter650]

New SIG on roster P365 and P320 variants and S&W M&P variants are pretty compelling compared to used and heavily marked up G4 and G5 Glocks. Nothing against the Glocks but there are just way more options on the roster now than 2-3 years ago plus no C19 cookooness either.

[newshooter650]

Also Springfield XD and Hellcats on roster too.

[jyo]

A couple of years ago, the market for used guns (and ammo) was HOT! Now it's a great deal softer... That's the free market for you...

[k1dude]

Inflation is crushing people's bank accounts. We also have a gun friendly President now. Both contribute to a softening market as much as the roster opening to new guns after dumping microstamping.