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  • five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34676

    Do you carry while boating?

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    OCEquestrian
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    • Jun 2017
    • 6778

    I CCW and simply take the gun off and stow it on the boat when I am aboard.
    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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    • #3
      WOODY2
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 1262

      Couldn't resist, if you don't carry how could you have the proverbial boating accident? ?

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        DuckDawg22
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2023
        • 37

        Fish and game law allows you to carry on your person while in the act of fishing. This includes transit to and from the fishing location. I carry on the Delta, never know what you're going to run into.

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          five.five-six
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2006
          • 34676

          Originally posted by OCEquestrian
          I CCW and simply take the gun off and stow it on the boat when I am aboard.
          What if you dock at a restaurant or something? Do you leave it aboard?

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            deckhandmike
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            • Jan 2011
            • 8322

            We always had a gun for every crew member.

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            • #7
              OCEquestrian
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2017
              • 6778

              Originally posted by five.five-six

              What if you dock at a restaurant or something? Do you leave it aboard?
              Yeah...I leave it aboard.
              "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

              Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                divingin
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 2522

                Be aware that being on navigable water pretty much means you're under federal jurisdiction (in most cases, anyway.) A lot of people figure rivers and lakes are state or local, but that changes once you leave shore. Local LE can still cite, but the feds have final say (assuming they care about the situation.) Comes up occasionally with boaters who want to partake in (CA legal) dope smoking - rude awakening.

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                • #9
                  TTT
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 880

                  If I was carrying on a boat I'd use a lanyard.
                  Dr. Goldstein showed us the way. We dropped the ball. Pick up the ball.

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                    Snoopy47
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3748

                    How do you think all those guns get lost.
                    Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                    • #11
                      OCEquestrian
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 6778

                      Originally posted by Snoopy47
                      How do you think all those guns get lost.
                      "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30239

                        Originally posted by DuckDawg22
                        Fish and game law allows you to carry on your person while in the act of fishing. This includes transit to and from the fishing location. I carry on the Delta, never know what you're going to run into.
                        While fishing and having a valid CA CCW permit, the permit holder can conceal carry their loaded handgun that is listed on their permit at any non-prohibited CCW locations.
                        ^Can not legally carry while fishing on school property, on college/university property, etc.

                        For a person that does not have a valid CA CCW permit, the fishing exemption only applies to CA conceal carry laws and does not apply to CA loaded firearm in public laws.

                        Therefore...

                        If you only have a valid CA fishing license...
                        ... it is legal to conceal carry an unloaded handgun while traveling to and from your fishing site.
                        ... it is legal to conceal carry an unloaded handgun while fishing in an area that prohibits the discharge of firearms.
                        ... it is legal to conceal carry a loaded handgun while fishing in an area that does not prohibit the discharge of firearms.

                        It is legal to open carry a loaded firearm or an unloaded firearm in an area where it is legal to discharge firearms.
                        It is legal to open carry an unloaded antique firearm.

                        This means...

                        This would be CA legal method of carrying, as a person with a valid CA fishing license and fishing in a place where it is legal to discharge firearms:
                        1. Exit residence and foot travel to vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                        2. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                        3. Exit vehicle and foot travel to fishing site or entering a vessel with permission from the master of the vessel to possess a firearm and traveling to the fishing site = unloaded conceal carry or unloaded in a locked container.
                        4. At fishing site, while fishing = loaded conceal carry or unloaded conceal carry or loaded open carry or unloaded open carry or unloaded in a locked container.
                        5. Foot travel from fishing site to vehicle or exiting a vessel and foot travel to vehicle = unloaded conceal carry or unloaded in a locked container.
                        6. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                        7. Exit vehicle and foot travel to residence = unloaded in locked container.

                        This would be CA legal method of carrying, as a person with a valid CA fishing license and fishing in a place where it is illegal to discharge firearms:
                        1. Exit residence and foot travel to vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                        2. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                        3. Exit vehicle and foot travel to fishing site or entering a vessel with permission from the master of the vessel to possess a firearm and traveling to the fishing site = unloaded conceal carry or unloaded in a locked container.
                        4. At fishing site, while fishing = unloaded conceal carry or unloaded in a locked container.
                        5. Foot travel from fishing site to vehicle or exiting a vessel and foot travel to vehicle = unloaded conceal carry or unloaded in a locked container.
                        6. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                        7. Exit vehicle and foot travel to residence = unloaded in locked container.

                        Originally posted by divingin
                        Be aware that being on navigable water pretty much means you're under federal jurisdiction (in most cases, anyway.) A lot of people figure rivers and lakes are state or local, but that changes once you leave shore. Local LE can still cite, but the feds have final say (assuming they care about the situation.) Comes up occasionally with boaters who want to partake in (CA legal) dope smoking - rude awakening.
                        Federal laws prohibits possession or carrying of firearms on a vessel, unless that person has permission from the master of the vessel. [18 USC 2277(a)]
                        ^No exemptions for a person with a valid carry permit.

                        In order to be legal on CA territorial waters, a person must have permission to carry from the owner/captain of the vessel (boat/ship) and have a valid CA CCW permit or carry in accordance with the fishing exemption to CA conceal carry laws or store the firearm in accordance with CA firearm transport laws (unloaded in a locked container).

                        Also, because of CA case laws regarding when a vehicle is or is not considered a "residence"...
                        If a "house boat" is not docked, then it's considered a vehicle and not a residence.
                        ^When it is considered a vehicle and there are no other exemptions, firearms need to be unloaded and in a locked container.
                        If a "house boat" is docked, then it could be treated as a residence.
                        ^When it is considered a residence and there are no other exemptions, firearms can be loaded and carried within the vehicle, but can not be carried outside of the vehicle (on the deck of the "house boat").
                        Last edited by Quiet; 06-04-2024, 5:19 PM.
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                        • #13
                          ar15robert
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                          • Sep 2002
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                            stormvet
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 10162

                            Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                              five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
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