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Not in California.
PG&E has long had the reputation for disabusing land owners who simply wish to use water flowing and even rain water landing on their property. I knew a guy 35 or 40 years ago who bought some acreage in Lassen County, planted a trailer home on it, then tried to water a garden by diverting the stream on the property. He had a Sheriff's Deputy show up with a cease and desist order. Why? Because PG&E had the water rights from 'the surface to the core of the Earth.'
According to the California State Water Resources Board...
Let's just say that 'water rights' in California is a complex, labyrinthine system... or... it can be. You might want to consult the page I linked to so as to get a sense for how things work....Water is protected for the use and benefit of all Californians. California's waters cannot be owned by individuals, groups, businesses, or governmental agencies. But permits, licenses, and registrations give individuals and others the right to beneficially use reasonable amounts of water...
In California, water rights law is administered by the State Water Resources Control Board (often called simply the State Water Board). Within the State Water Board, the Division of Water Rights acts on behalf of the State Water Board for day to day matters. The State Water Board is the only agency with authority to administer water rights in California. Local governments, water districts, and the California Regional Water Quality Control Boards do not administer water rights. The State Water Board shares the authority to enforce water right laws with the state courts...
The use of water without a water right is a trespass against the State of California and can lead to fines of up to $500 per day of use. If you are using water illegally, you can be required to stop taking and using water...
Similarly, mineral rights in California can also become... complex. California Mineral Rights...
In short, water and mineral rights don't, of necessity, automatically transfer with property ownership....The concept of mineral rights in California is underpinned by a complex legal framework, where these rights can be owned separately from the land itself. This separation creates a unique dynamic between the surface rights owner and the mineral rights owner, often leading to intricate negotiations and agreements. The mineral rights include a range of resources, from oil and gas to precious metals like gold, extending to less conspicuous commodities like coal and natural gas...
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In short, water and mineral rights don't, of necessity, automatically transfer with property ownership.
[/QUOTE] figures.
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Vote, they vote for you, how do you think the keep winning!Comment
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So in essence what we have here is a situation where sure , you can purchase and own land . But if there is anything the state finds of value i.e. water,minerals ,location (annexation),etc.then well your ownership is debatable.Comment
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One question I have is why ? What is the reason for having an obsession to destroy every prosperous aspect of living in this state ? From driving the the successful businesses out along with that tax base ,to the whole free for all crime policy . I understand the size and dynamics of the state of CA ,which leads me to wonder why those that are "in charge " are so hell bent on its destruction .the only reason I can conclude is that California is the proverbial first domino to fall in relation to the the rest in the nation .Comment
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Though I haven't read up on any changes to the law itself, can you cite source? or is it specifically in that stupid law and I just missed it?--Magazines for Sig Sauer P6
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What possible moral case can be made to exempt a class of citizen (active or retired LEOs in this case) from a tax on goods acquired for their own personal possession?Last edited by boltstop; 07-16-2024, 1:11 PM.Comment
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