German Army reporting problems with G36 rifle

[TNP'R]

Despite HK's sterling reputation for quality and the rifle isn't universally loved. Now a German newspaper is reporting that the German Army is aware of an interesting problem. Once the rifle heats up with use, the accuracy degrades so much that it's ineffective past 200 meters.

http://militaryarms.blogspot.com/2012/04/german-army-reporting-problems-with-g36.html

[RMP91]

Despite HK's sterling reputation for quality and the rifle isn't universally loved. Now a German newspaper is reporting that the German Army is aware of an interesting problem. Once the rifle heats up with use, the accuracy degrades so much that it's ineffective past 200 meters.
http://militaryarms.blogspot.com/201...-with-g36.html

Taking recent conflicts into account, do they really need to be accurate beyond 200m? Most engagements nowadays occur anywhere from point-blank, to about 25 yds TOPs...

Again, just what I've seen...

[Squid]

I've heard of lots of long range firefights in Afghan

and I think just having the enemy know you only got a very few good shots per gun at long range would be a big problem.

[John Browning]

Taking recent conflicts into account, do they really need to be accurate beyond 200m? Most engagements nowadays occur anywhere from point-blank, to about 25 yds TOPs...

Again, just what I've seen...

In AFG the shots are often loooooooong.

[Bobula]

Better drop the price on them

[Army]

Taking recent conflicts into account, do they really need to be accurate beyond 200m? Most engagements nowadays occur anywhere from point-blank, to about 25 yds TOPs...

Again, just what I've seen...

Unless the bad guy is shooting at you from 201m, a 25m rifle ain't gonna cut it.

"Recent conflicts" have shown the bad guys are learning our capabilities. He stays out there and engages from 4-500m with large caliber, RPG, and mortar...then runs away before we engage him with our 800m weapons, artillery, or air assets.

Sign up, deploy to the 'stan, then come back and report your success at 25m.

[ElvenSoul]

They use those in Dr. Who a lot. This platform has been around since the 90's. I find it strange that they are just now learning of these issues.

[digdug74]

Was just watching a Larry Vicker's clip on youtube earlier today about German assault rifles and there was a short segment on the G36. There's apparently some speculation that the plastic receiver housing might be heating up enough to allow the metal internals (the trunion specifically, I think) to shift around a little before the plastic rehardens, causing a shift in POA. Don't know if it's true but since I'll never own a G36 I'm not real concerned about it ...

[Marsoc1]

what they havent switched to the hk416 yet..

[NSR500]

Exactly why I will not own any HK polymer rifles.

[smle-man]

I'm guessing the German army is learning that range work in northern Europe is different than firefights in Afghanistan, which will sort out what works and what doesn't pretty quickly. Bet they're glad they didn't adopt the G11 after all. In the last war the German rifleman existed to carry ammunition for the MG42; maybe they need to go back to that plan again.

[mbaerg]

Taking recent conflicts into account, do they really need to be accurate beyond 200m? Most engagements nowadays occur anywhere from point-blank, to about 25 yds TOPs...

Again, just what I've seen...

Average firefight in STAN is around 700m

[ldivinag]

i had similar issues with them in COD 4...

[Mac]

Combat Tupperware.

[Quiet]

Taking recent conflicts into account, do they really need to be accurate beyond 200m? Most engagements nowadays occur anywhere from point-blank, to about 25 yds TOPs...

Again, just what I've seen...

This is true from what I've seen on the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare series of video games.