rubber bullets?

[ilikerugers]

After reading this thread about a home invasion that ended up tragically for the young man breaking in:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=8245854

I'm thinking I should change my nightstand guns to rubber bullets. I mean, this ended up a lose-lose situation. The young man died while admitting his mistake and the home owner is forced to look at the place in his own home where someone died!

For as much as I've always liked guns, I've always thought the problem with them is they provide permanent solutions to temporary problems. Would rubber bullets defuse, slow down, or stop a situation as described in that thread?

[Merc1138]

So if the person dies from the rubber bullets(they are less-lethal, not non-lethal), what then?

What are you going to tell a judge and jury when the intruder died from your rubber bullets because you wanted to use less-lethal force because your life wasn't in danger enough to use real bullets but he's dead anyhow?

What if your rubber bullets do not stop the intruder before they get to you with their own weapon?

Search through the shotgun forum for people discussing rubber buckshot, beanbag rounds, etc. and you'll end up with exactly what I posted above repeated ad nauseum. If you don't want to use bullets, get a taser.

[CSACANNONEER]

Not this stupid idea again. Next time try the search function. This has been repatedly discussed in the last few weeks.

[repubconserv]

I like the idea of frangible rubber birdshot. I also use low base shells so that there is even less of a chance for the pellets to penetrate skin.

[fighterpilot562]

If you gonna break into someone's house and the owner has a HD weapon and you get shot and die, then that was the risk you take breaking the law and trying to rob someone of value's. How many time's have you heard of break in's and the BG end up killing the owners to leave no witnesses? The thing about HD weapon is, you have it with the understanding that, maybe one day you might need to use it, and there is a chance you will kill the intruder. If you dont feel right about this. Just keep ur guns locked up and dont plan to use it as a HD

[FullAuto]

If you take the time, have the stupidity and balls to break into someone's home...their sanctuary, then you risk getting what you deserve. A person's home is supposed to be a place in which you feel safe from anything in the outside world and when someone breaks in to your home, you are violated in a very intimate way. Now I understand someone's life isn't worth a TV or something similar, but the life of my family is worth killing for when threatened. Rubber bullets? If you would want to use rubber bullets and are scared of killing someone who has proven to disregard your safety, security and peace of mind.........Get a slingshot

[theicecreamdan]

it would be pretty fun to load up a shotgun with bouncy balls, and shoot a couple off into a gymnasium

[Oceanbob]

If you gonna break into someone's house and the owner has a HD weapon and you get shot and die, then that was the risk you take breaking the law and trying to rob someone of value's. How many time's have you heard of break in's and the BG end up killing the owners to leave no witnesses? The thing about HD weapon is, you have it with the understanding that, maybe one day you might need to use it, and there is a chance you will kill the intruder. If you dont feel right about this. Just keep ur guns locked up and dont plan to use it as a HD

This..^^^^^

And some intruders are not first-offender-misguided-young-men...some will kill you with a gun or knife, rape your wife, kill her, rape your daughter and set the house on fire on the way out. These guys killed both daughters..the man escaped...he had NO GUNS. Tragic.

I MUST assume if you're breaking into my house you are going to kill me and my kids. Therefore, you're going to have to take a chance with my GLOCK.



Both got the death sentence..

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-01-27/Komisarjevsky-connecticut-home-invasion-killer-death-sentence/52818952/1

Be well and take care of your family and your life.

Bob

[fighterpilot562]

it would be pretty fun to load up a shotgun with bouncy balls, and shoot a couple off into a gymnasium

or Racquetball Court?

[ilikerugers]

I hear you, that is, the collective response about the bad guy

what about the good guy? He can't sell his house because no one wants to buy it now, and he has a daily reminder, in the sanctity of his own home, of the worst moment of his life, he mentioned the wearing impact it has had on him having to see the spot on the floor where someone died

[repubconserv]

I hear you, that is, the collective response about the bad guy

what about the good guy? He can't sell his house because no one wants to buy it now, and he has a daily reminder, in the sanctity of his own home, of the worst moment of his life, he mentioned the wearing impact it has had on him having to see the spot on the floor where someone died

No body is going to want to buy his house anyways. the market sucks. most people will not be turned off by a person dying anyways.

The solution to problem #2 is he either gets new carpet, or move his dinner table.

Do not use lethal force if you are not prepared to use it, you will get sued by the intruder. You will go to prison and he will get your house.

Which is better then? you kill him, or you go to prison?

[CSACANNONEER]

I hear you, that is, the collective response about the bad guy

what about the good guy? He can't sell his house because no one wants to buy it now, and he has a daily reminder, in the sanctity of his own home, of the worst moment of his life, he mentioned the wearing impact it has had on him having to see the spot on the floor where someone died

If this is how you are really thinking, please leave your firearms locked in a safe and just dial 911 if someone breaks in. Don't worry, the police will show up at some point. Your next of kin will still have to clean the blood spot off the floor and have trouble selling the home you were brutally murdered in. But, you will have peace of mind since you did not use leathal force to defend yourself and you won't ever have to look at that daily reminder.

Seriously, you are not trained in the use of less leathal force and you do not have someone backing you up in case you need to use normal ammo. So, don't be stupid.

[SocomM4]

I've always wondered, what if the BG is unarmed because he knows I can't shoot him unless he is, and decides to try and rush me and get my weapon? Wouldnt that then become a life and death struggle? Would I then have legal reason to fire?

[joemama]

Might as well use #8 birdshot because it's less than lethal don't forget to use an open choke

[huntercf]

Forget the rubber bullets, like an above poster said get a tazer if you are that worried about using real ammo.
I do not relish the thought of taking another person's life; however, if they break into my home that was their choice to make I did not make it for them, I don't have a choice at that point I have to protect my family. I gave up that choice when I had a family, it is now a responsibility.