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  • postal
    Banned
    • Mar 2008
    • 4566

    Anyone consider a fire sprinkler for their safe?

    I dont have a safe yet. It's one of many things on the list to get. But I was thinking about installing my own fire sprinkler system over the safe to cool the safe if a fire occurred.

    I was thinking about a "temporary" install that could be removed easily if code enforcement found it.

    Run a regular lawn sprinkler valve to thick wall copper 1" tubing through the attic above the safe, with fire sprinkler nozzles into the closet that holds the safe.

    The valve would be outside for access in a fire, but hidden or locked so no one floods the house accidentally.

    Although the heat from a fire goes up.... if the sprinkler system has a high flow of water, the water would cool the pipe/solder joints and would withstand a very high temperature, so the system "should" last quite a bit longer than people would think in a fire. And of course the water would cool the safe until the roof came down, and busts up the pipe.

    Interesting idea? waste of time?
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    LikeAllGuns
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 652

    I like it a lot. you have thought of the heat factor with copper pipe. I'm sure there will be haters only cause they didn't think of it.

    Add a heat censor to open water valve. You might not be there to open water valve.

    Good luck I want to work on it myself. I live in the trees and this summer is already freaking me out. We need rain.

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    • #3
      theduece
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 768

      Why not ditch the lawn sprinkler valve and install a regular fire sprinkler?

      I would forget the manual valve idea alltogether just hard pipe it in, no valve to get turned off.
      Last edited by theduece; 02-24-2012, 10:20 AM. Reason: didn't read question correctly
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      • #4
        theduece
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 768

        O and for one sprinkler in a closet, 1/2" pipe would suffice. Running the system in copper is not an issue, there is also a plastic pipe(blazemaster) that is legal to do it with.
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        • #5
          alfred1222
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2010
          • 7331

          just out of curiosity, why not just get a safe that is fire resistant for something like 3 hours?? i like the sprinkler idea, but i just cant wrap my head around the concept of drilling a hole into the top of my safe. but if u decide to do it, post up pictures!
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          • #6
            Decoligny
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 10615

            Originally posted by alfred1222
            just out of curiosity, why not just get a safe that is fire resistant for something like 3 hours?? i like the sprinkler idea, but i just cant wrap my head around the concept of drilling a hole into the top of my safe. but if u decide to do it, post up pictures!
            It a sprinkler system OVER the safe, not a sprinkler system INSIDE the safe.

            No drilling a hole in the top of the safe so you can fill it with water if a fire breaks out.
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            • #7
              oldsmoboat
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1303

              Maybe a Halon system but I wouldn't want to introduce water to my guns. Might spring a leak and be a while before you noticed and then you have a pile of rusty guns. Might as well let them burn and file an insurance claim.

              EDIT:
              OVER, not in. Oops.
              Last edited by oldsmoboat; 02-24-2012, 10:58 AM.
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              • #8
                NeenachGuy
                Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 262

                Sprinklers are a great idea. When we built our home, we installed fire sprinklers in every room, and one of the sprinklers is directly above the gun safe. Just make sure you do it right... The sprinkler system needs to have its own connection to the water main coming into the house, and it needs to have a valve that maintains the proper pressure in the event that the water main is busted.

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                • #9
                  medicdude
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1034

                  FIL is building a new house and apparently by code sprinklers are required over a certain sq footage. They're all over the house including in the safe closet.

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                  • #10
                    Flyin Brian
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3395

                    Since the government failed to pass legislation requiring reinforced floors in boats, I am unable to participate in this discussion on gun safes
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                    • #11
                      SantaCabinetguy
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 15137

                      Originally posted by Flyin Brian
                      Since the government failed to pass legislation requiring reinforced floors in boats, I am unable to participate in this discussion on gun safes
                      That story sounds like it deserves its own thread (with pictures) in the OT section.
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                      • #12
                        cabinetguy
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 12659

                        if you do it, you had better run piping that can handle the heat from a fire. I think most sprinkler systems use galv piping, since copper has a lower melting point. a sprinkler does no good if water cant get to it. Another idea would firewall the room it is in, I beleive a 2 hr firewall for a garage is 2 sheets of 5/8 drywall, that might buy some time for the room the safe is in

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                        • #13
                          Smoothiesd
                          Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 230

                          My dad had a safe delivered a couple of months ago and the driver gave him a tip for a redneck fire sprinkler over a safe. He said alot of his customers put 6 to 8 cases of bottled water on top of the safe thinking that the head would melt the bottles causing the water to run down the safe.

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                          • #14
                            Shellshocker66
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 1760

                            How about just placing an automatic fire extinguisher in the safe? They are set to go off at 175 degrees and blankets the area with non-water/no powder residue halon replacement.



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                            • #15
                              BrokerB
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5320

                              Buy a safe

                              Put 5gallon water jugs on top. They will melt and reduce heat on your safe.., maybe - ..which you do not own yet

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