Carelessness in a gun store

[Solid Foundation]

In OP's defense, I've never been swept by the guy BEHIND the counter.

There's no control over who comes in and out of the shop but you have to at least have the people behind the counter know what the heck they're doing.

I'd leave and never come back unless I got a personal invitation back by the owner/manager guaranteeing that it'd never happen again.

[Lives_In_Fresno]

I won't name the store since since I don't feel causing a business possible future business based on one employees actions. I contacted the store owner and informed him of what happened and why I won't go there again. Imagine if you owned a business and one of your employees did something wrong, would you like it blasted all over the place or would you rather have the incident brought up to you so you could fix it.

I guess I should have put in the title "Just want to vent". Oh well lesson learned.

Your post was useless....

[Joe]

This post is worthless without naming the store.

Pretty much.

Don't bother posting next time OP

[nick007g]

I've seen this when the store has the manufacturer reps over for a mass gun show/sale. I seen this when Reeds was in San Jose and they used to do the big sales with manufacture sales. Personally, I don't like it but they also employed a armed (fully sleeved which made me feel even better, as I am often judged for my tats) SJPD guy to stand guard at the front door and they would never allow any ammo in the magazine at any time, in the store, what so ever.

I do hear you though, I NEVER want a firearm pointed at me and take it as a personal affront to my being when/if it should occur, weather lawfully or not. If you said nothing then you should expect nothing. If you mentioned your "uneasiness" about the situation I'm sure they would have said something to the offender (even if discreetly, which would be most appropriate), if not, for anything but to butter you up for a sale then laughed at you after your purchase.

It is not right but certain places (like Reeds) who are known for not "messing around" I feel a bit more comfortable with the occasional "lapse of judgment" if you will. In the end it up to you, vote with your dollars but don't make a beef if you haven't spoke to the owners/operators about your concerns. You can scream after-the-fact but it would be best to quietly put your wallet back in your pocket and take your business elsewhere. I have been offended by some retailers that I have bought from in the past and I will just smile and thank them for their time; knowing I'm going to take my hundreds to their competitors why they chase only the "thousands customer".

This dose not sound like one of those situations. Make them aware of their "oversight" and they will make it right. Same as range "misconduct", I even offer up (in the most friendly and helpful manner) "constructive criticism" for newbies/bumblers because we need them to further our cause and embarrassing and scolding them purely for "humiliation" is just not right. Most issues are lack of training and oversight, not a blatant disregard for the rules or authority. Just keep that in mind and you'll make the right call!

[nick007g]

I don't think I would have ever been able to buy a gun if I refused to shop at every FFL where I saw unsafe handling.

+1 wise man..lol.

[nick007g]

Besides, if you are buying a long-gun/shot-gun swing and target acquisition is very important IMO. Just saying.

[nick007g]

I saw a new young sale's man, showing off his pistol, droping out the magazine which was loaded. is this a problem? at lease, it is not necessary, maybe unsafe. imho, a loaded gun, if allowed is for safety reason only. there is no point to show it off to a customer. I wouldn't name the store.

there are stupid people, so stupid gun laws for them.

/////I call BS on this! This is an entirely different ballgame and you should have made an immediate comment (loudly mind you) and fled ASAP! Loaded weapons not double-checked by associate and buyer would make me feel very uneasy. I would definitely leave if this was the case! No purchase is worth this ammount of indiscretion; period.!

[zum]

/////I call BS on this! This is an entirely different ballgame and you should have made an immediate comment (loudly mind you) and fled ASAP! Loaded weapons not double-checked by associate and buyer would make me feel very uneasy. I would definitely leave if this was the case! No purchase is worth this amount of indiscretion; period.!

nope ive experienced this first hand by a older salesman mind you.

i was in the market for a LC9 and was mentioning to the salesmen that i wished to get the LCP but it was LE only.

Just so happens said salesman was packing a LCP and i asked to handle it and compare it to the LC9 and he did after dropping his loaded mag and clearing the chamber

i of course checked the chamber again and proceeded to size the two up.

so i don't find this hard to believe

[nick007g]

I also find it hard to believe that a dealer would "dry-fire" even if they can! They convince many that "snap-caps" are necessary to keep things "kosher" if you will. Snap-caps are a up-sell and as a salesman myself I would never "give-away" what I could make money on Just keeping it real! Sounds sleazy but I'm just keeping it real. Oh and I'm done I said my piece. Nothing further from me. Thanks for reading/looking/considering. I'm out~ 007 gone!

[Gnome]

I was recently at a store and they had guns... I felt uncomfortable, so I called the owner.

I'm not naming the store.

Lol...

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I don't get it..?

you do realize that is the store ensuring the gun is empty before handing it over to a potential customer....standard protocol. It's not a sales technique.

That's what I was thinking...

Well I guess for some guys going to a gun store and seeing things and hearing noises is an adventure.

Lol.

I bet if we started a poll: "Have you ever been swept at a gun store" The results would be pretty predictable. Not saying that makes it okay....just that it has and will continue to happen.

Do it, do it, do it...

Pretty much.

Don't bother posting next time OP

Ouch...

[JB-Norcal]

Got mad and left? "not getting my business"? Cmon guy, speak up, "HEY, don't do that". Make it a teachable moment, it can be light or harsh, adjust as needed. Don't just go home.

[BassNut]

That gun store wasn't in Penryn was it?

[Tarn_Helm]

Head shot

Pretty much.

Don't bother posting next time OP

+1

I have very "thick skin."

But the action the OP is talking about describes someone pointing a gun at his head and apparently dry firing it.

I would have instinctively grabbed the gun out of his hand and probably raised my voice very loudly and complained very loudly using very off color language.

At the indoor range where I shoot, if the manager sees someone at the front counter sweep the room, he grabs the dude's gun and makes lock it up--then he kicks the guy out with a sharply worded warning of a possible permanent ban and forfeiture of membership.

When it comes to firearms, it is not your actions that save you and make you safe, it is your habits.

If you routinely sweep a people-filled room with the muzzle of your "empty" gun, you are developing habits that will ultimately lead to unintended injury and/or death.

MESSAGE TO OP:

Consider writing an anonymous letter addressed to "The Owner" of the store in question explaining what you saw.

Explain to him that if you ever see that kind of thing happen there again, you will notify the Better Business Bureau and CA DoJ Division of Firearms--and that you will post the story all over the internet.

If you don't, then your silence is complicity in any "accident" that happens there in the future under similar circumstances to the ones you have described.

Speak up.

The actions you saw in that store are unsafe and insane.

Do the right thing.

Don't just play games like a teenager here.

[Riflewizard]

gun stores are full of morons. what do you expect?

[chim-chim7]

This is almost as bad as the guy who was worried about the handguns in the display case pointing at him.