Doomsday Prepper Shoots Himself

[goodlookin1]

From the clip I just watched, that was staged. Been an Emt/Paramedic for 15 years! Isolated extremity injuries do not cause enough blood loss for a loss of consciousness. I have seen a guy rip the inside of his elbow open and lacerate his brachial artery. Spurting, pumping blood and he stayed conscious the whole time. I call Bravo Sierra!

Some people can see blood coming from somebody else and faint!

This was not staged...this was a true idiot caught on camera!

[bruss01]

The interesting thing is that the medic from the TV crew had to step in and save him. If not for that guy, who knows what might have happened. Through his negligent preparations for hypothetical dangers, he managed to create a real danger that hadn't existed before and could have killed himself.

That's a great point and here's one more...

If he had been alone out there with his boys, and done the exact same thing... who would have driven them to the hospital? Odds are 10-1 they weren't within cell range of a tower. Is the older boy a driver? I was driving (under a learner's permit with an adult in the car) when I was 14 but there's a tendency to coddle people these days where they're not getting licensed until they're 18 or 20.

He was certainly in no shape to be driving himself anywhere like that, especially with his boys in the car.

[Desert_Rat]

That guy is a *****. A guy shot himself in the leg at an IDPA match with a 165 gr hollow point. When I arrived to help with the first aid about 30 seconds after the shot, he was on his cell phone calling his boss to say that he might be late for work. This dude had two holes in his upper thigh. The prepper dude is a *****, my IDPA guy is the guardian of all things manly.And the IDPA guy was at the next months match kicking *** and taking names.

[Synergy]

Some people can see blood coming from somebody else and faint!

This was not staged...this was a true idiot caught on camera!

Keep on believing what you want. I base my assessment on medical facts.

[immaculate]

I watched the episode being mentioned here and was completely shocked when the guy shot himself in the thumb. I had the show on in the background and was doing something else and had to pause and rewind to watch what happened. I won't pass judgement or play armchair quarterback here because I know that being on camera seems to make people do strange things, but I did get some slight amusement from one of the guy's kids calling him out after the fact by re-iterating one of the gun-handling rules - never cover something with the business end that you do not intend to destroy. Must've been traumatic for his kids

[Falstaff]

Those wannabes are making gun owners, survivalists and Americans in general look like a bunch of idiots.

That's the plan... Our gov is totally schizophrenic- Homeland Stupidity is saying that people who "hoard" food, store ammo, pay cash, etc are terrorists; FEMA on the other hand is regularly running ads (tv and print) telling us to prepare for emergency, have food and supplies on hand, have a plan etc etc
So which is it?

[aermotor]

That guy is a *****. A guy shot himself in the leg at an IDPA match with a 165 gr hollow point. When I arrived to help with the first aid about 30 seconds after the shot, he was on his cell phone calling his boss to say that he might be late for work. This dude had two holes in his upper thigh. The prepper dude is a *****, my IDPA guy is the guardian of all things manly.And the IDPA guy was at the next months match kicking *** and taking names.

The fact that he shot himself takes away from any praise and so called "guardian of all things manly" that might have been bestowed upon him. And really, within 30 seconds he's calling his boss? I highly doubt that.

[sm510husky]

But he did make a cool weapon that does many things. I thought that tool that looks like a shovel was cool. I want one.

me too. i spent 2 hours searching for a place to buy one. he said hes got a patent and thats how he makes his money.

[Desert_Rat]

The fact that he shot himself takes away from any praise and so called "guardian of all things manly" that might have been bestowed upon him. And really, within 30 seconds he's calling his boss? I highly doubt that.

OK OK OK I got there in 30 seconds and while we were administering first aid he called his boss. The ambulance was there in 10 minutes. Yes, he's "the guardian of all things manly" That has nothing to do with the fact that he screwed up and blasted himself.

Take it easy on my time line. It's the internet after all...sheesh.

[Dead*Reckoned]

Finally, thumbthing worth watching on this show!

[helpme]

Hmmmm, looks like a classic case of the old "thumb-in-the-gun" malfunction.

[Dead*Reckoned]

Hmmmm, looks like a classic case of the old "thumb-in-the-gun" malfunction.

Quite similar to the head in *** malfunction, I imagine.

[Vaporshax]

I dug how his teenage son recited rule #2 of firearm safety to him at the dinner with his hand bandaged up.

[Deadbolt]

I dug how his teenage son recited rule #2 of firearm safety to him at the dinner with his hand bandaged up.

the past teenager and future father in me got a hardy laugh at this

[emtmark]

Originally Posted by Rob454
he was in shock he did not faint like you think. Some of the toughest people can go into shock over something like that. And that sometimes can kill you even if the wound is not fatal

OK, let me give you a little education on the difference between shock and fainting.

Shock is inadequate tissue perfusion. It means your organs and tissue are not receiving the needed O2 to continue to function. Little known fact (yes I'm going into medical trivia) The most common question that is answered wrong is, what does everyone die from? Most answer cardiac arrest which is wrong. Every one dies of inadequate tissue perfusion, no matter how you die!

Now for our little guy last night who FAINTED, he had a vasovagal response. Which is caused by the vagus nerve, most common symptoms before a vagal response is feeling lightheaded, turning pale and then passing out. It has a very quick recovery time, because as soon as the person passes out the stimulus to the vagus nerve ends and all returns to normal. (little more trivia, people can have a vagal response from vomiting, straining while using the restroom, and there is a medical procedure that is used to incite a vagal response to stop a fast heart rhythm, and the most common is the sudden traumatic event that cause people to hold their breath and strain at the same time due to pain like our guy lastnight!).

Trust me if the guy has been in shock we would not have seen him coming back around on TV without some major fluid infusing, not to mention he did not loose enough blood from that wound to cause shock.


Not spouting this from wiki, but from years and years of experience as a Paramedic, Paramedic instructor, and preceptor for Paramedic students.

Not as a sticking point, but as a question I defended in my internship, fainting is a form of shock.
http://www.ecsinstitute.org/FirstAid...ogenic%20shock. By whatever mechanism blood is no longer perusing tissue. In this case that is cerebral tissue. Don't doubt the bona fides and credentials one bit but had to giggle when I read it. Flashed me right back to the conversation all interns dread which starts with "What you thinking there intern?". But I digress. Without violating hippa