Doomsday Prepper Shoots Himself

[wikioutdoor]

Exactly their intent. They have to diminish all gun owners and portray us as idiots. Some have a head start

Uh yeah except with all of the exposure shows like this sons of guns, and even fps russia are giving to the shooting industry guns are flying off the shelves in record numbers so that would have the opposite effect.

I have a whole slew of friends that suddenly want ar15's for no other reason.

[Deadbolt]

no i think the assumption I was making was that the show was structured in a way to debase and discredit the activity of "prepping" - my apologies if that was not clear

And if you think preparers are idiots because of a show then your not accepting television as entertainment or understanding that you take what you can get in life / sorry.

[wikioutdoor]

Yes it is definitely downplaying the risks the preparers are talking about in some cases. I think that is probably good business by not inducing further hysteria.

However as long as the show continues to air it will be a subject for debate or a study in alternative theories possibly long after even. That is definitely a good thing and has brought many people to the table that weren't before.

I had some neighbors last weekend for the first time since I moved here 8 years ago come up and start asking me about water filtration for emergencies.

[five.five-six]

friends don't let friends buy glocks

[Shellshocker66]

I really enjoyed his fainting on camera! Now there is a tough guy... Well ok maybe not...

Well his shovel will probably be a hit, although for a hundred bucks it's a little on the pricey side! But he did give it some good promo time!

http://www.gearupcenter.com/crovel-tactical/

[Rob454]

Those wannabes are making gun owners, survivalists and Americans in general look like a bunch of idiots.

You don't think there is some other motive besides "entertainment" in the portrayal of these doomsday people? The media wants them to be seen like kooks and crazies. i can take ANY sane and reasonable person and if I edit the film enough I can make them seem like whackadoos. And I am a total idiot when it comes to video editing I can only imagine what someone who knows what they are doing can do.

I really enjoyed his fainting on camera! Now there is a tough guy... Well ok maybe not...
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he was in shock he did not faint like you think. Some of the toughest people can go into shock over something like that. And that sometimes can kill you even if the wound is not fatal

[kylemurdoc]

He employs 400 people with his shovel business, in America.
3:54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRAZSdWJqTs

[Shellshocker66]

he was in shock he did not faint like you think. Some of the toughest people can go into shock over something like that. And that sometimes can kill you even if the wound is not fatal

OK, let me give you a little education on the difference between shock and fainting.

Shock is inadequate tissue perfusion. It means your organs and tissue are not receiving the needed O2 to continue to function. Little known fact (yes I'm going into medical trivia) The most common question that is answered wrong is, what does everyone die from? Most answer cardiac arrest which is wrong. Every one dies of inadequate tissue perfusion, no matter how you die!

Now for our little guy last night who FAINTED, he had a vasovagal response. Which is caused by the vagus nerve, most common symptoms before a vagal response is feeling lightheaded, turning pale and then passing out. It has a very quick recovery time, because as soon as the person passes out the stimulus to the vagus nerve ends and all returns to normal. (little more trivia, people can have a vagal response from vomiting, straining while using the restroom, and there is a medical procedure that is used to incite a vagal response to stop a fast heart rhythm, and the most common is the sudden traumatic event that cause people to hold their breath and strain at the same time due to pain like our guy lastnight!).

Trust me if the guy has been in shock we would not have seen him coming back around on TV without some major fluid infusing, not to mention he did not loose enough blood from that wound to cause shock.


Not spouting this from wiki, but from years and years of experience as a Paramedic, Paramedic instructor, and preceptor for Paramedic students.

[bruss01]

Right, I think they meant mental/emotional shock rather than the medical definition of shock. The combination of pain and embarassment would probably cause a lot of us to black out for a few seconds. Anyone who thinks that's not a real injury... believe me, that's got to hurt like bloody hell to where you can't see straight. It would be better if the thumb were completely severed, any nerve endings still functioning in the extremity are still transmitting pain to the brain. I am glad they were able to save his thumb. Bet he won't do that again. Ouch.

[MrExel17]

I bet he'll not do that again!

[Below.Zero]

[Rob454]

Ok well from what you say he fainted then. Either way it doesn't sound like its uncommon ( given the circumstances listed by you and what happened to him on camera) so why make fun of the guy? I meant more like the holy crap i am bleeding and just got shot I can't believe this is happening to me shock. ( I guess more of the I got in a accident and so overwhelmed with the situation some people simply pass out. hell my buddy passed out at his wedding. I remember when I was a kid a buddy sliced the tip of his pinkie off and freaked out running around then finally sitting down thinking he is gonna die. . Not I just got my arm blown off and I am bleeding to death shock.

[joash]

The interesting thing is that the medic from the TV crew had to step in and save him. If not for that guy, who knows what might have happened. Through his negligent preparations for hypothetical dangers, he managed to create a real danger that hadn't existed before and could have killed himself.

btw. for all the stopping power 9mm vs. .45 internet master debaters - just look what a .22 LR to the thumb did to that guy, put him completely out of commission.

[Tier One Arms]

What a coincidence that this happened one the very day they were filming the show!

[SuperSet]

He should have let his training take over so he can call his parents.