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  • 1911man
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1575

    5.56 / 6.8 mag. Question

    In a RAW in 5.56 with H. Cap. Mags. Can a owner convert a 5.56 mag. to a 6.8 H. Cap. Mag. with a 6.8 upper. Without breaking any laws?
    Last edited by 1911man; 02-01-2012, 7:25 PM. Reason: Info.
  • #2
    edward
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 966

    I THINK the general rule of thumb is that the mag needs to still be able to work in the weapon you originally had it for. If your mods destroy it's ability to feed 5.56, then it may be difficult to explain how you got this 6.8 "hi capacity" magazine. That you 'converted' it from a presumably legal 5.56 hi cap to this new one, and in the process lost the ability to use it as you originally had it, I would think might be construed as manufacturing a new one.

    Again; I THINK.

    ETA: I think wrong, see posts below.
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    • #3
      lrdchivalry
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 1031

      Originally posted by edward
      I THINK the general rule of thumb is that the mag needs to still be able to work in the weapon you originally had it for. If your mods destroy it's ability to feed 5.56, then it may be difficult to explain how you got this 6.8 "hi capacity" magazine. That you 'converted' it from a presumably legal 5.56 hi cap to this new one, and in the process lost the ability to use it as you originally had it, I would think might be construed as manufacturing a new one.

      Again; I THINK.
      The 6.8 uses the same magazines as the 5.56, the only thing that was different in my 6.8 mags were the followers. If you just change the followers there is no manufacturing of a new magazine.
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      • #4
        edward
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 966

        Originally posted by lrdchivalry
        The 6.8 uses the same magazines as the 5.56, the only thing that was different in my 6.8 mags were the followers. If you just change the followers there is no manufacturing of a new magazine.
        Yeah I didn't think it would be mfg'ing a new mag the way a normal, logical person would think of it. But doesn't the 6.8 follower render it unable to feed 5.56 properly? If so, I could swear that I'd seen cgn literature that if your mag can't be used in the original configuration/firearm or something then it could possibly be deemed manufacturing a new one cause you didn't technically have a hi cap for that firearm before you converted a mag from some other one.
        Then again who would really check such a thing...
        Then again maybe I'm going completely senile...
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        • #5
          lrdchivalry
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 1031

          Originally posted by edward
          Yeah I didn't think it would be mfg'ing a new mag the way a normal, logical person would think of it. But doesn't the 6.8 follower render it unable to feed 5.56 properly? If so, I could swear that I'd seen cgn literature that if your mag can't be used in the original configuration/firearm or something then it could possibly be deemed manufacturing a new one cause you didn't technically have a hi cap for that firearm before you converted a mag from some other one.
          Then again who would really check such a thing...
          Then again maybe I'm going completely senile...
          I have never seen anything that states changing a part to accept a different caliber is manufacturing a new magazine. As for the 6.8 follower not properly feeding 5.56 that has been my experience.
          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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          • #6
            1911man
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 1575

            6.8

            But the 6.8 mag will be used in the same lower that a 5.56 mag.would have been used in. By the way what's the deal with AR mags with date stamps on them?

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            • #7
              lrdchivalry
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 1031

              Originally posted by 1911man
              But the 6.8 mag will be used in the same lower that a 5.56 mag.would have been used in. By the way what's the deal with AR mags with date stamps on them?
              I don't own a RAW so I don't know if caliber is noted when the gun is registered, if so I wonder if that would present a problem when an leo runs the SN and it comes back to a rifle of a differnet caliber.
              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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              • #8
                wash
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2007
                • 9011

                6.8s have a different mag tube as well as the follower.

                The important part is that they share the same magazine spring and possibly floorplate.

                As long as one piece is from a legit "large capacity" magazine, you can rebuild it with anything else.

                Then you can go back and replace the old part to have a completely rebuilt "large capacity" magazine.

                The general rule is that as long as there is a rebuild chain like that and the number of "large capacity" magazines you own never increases, you have not illegally manufactured a "large capacity" magazine.
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                • #9
                  DannyInSoCal
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 8271

                  Police: "How is it you have hi-cap 6.8 magazines?"

                  You: "Owning a hi-cap magazine is not illegal. Here is my CalGuns spreadsheet and printout of the CA code..."

                  Police: "When did you buy it?"

                  You: "Owning a hi-cap magazine is not illegal. Here is my CalGuns spreadsheet and printout of the CA code..."

                  Police: "That things got a nice bark to it."

                  You: "Thanx."
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                  • #10
                    DannyInSoCal
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 8271

                    Originally posted by wash
                    6.8s have a different mag tube as well as the follower.

                    The important part is that they share the same magazine spring and possibly floorplate.

                    As long as one piece is from a legit "large capacity" magazine, you can rebuild it with anything else.

                    Then you can go back and replace the old part to have a completely rebuilt "large capacity" magazine.

                    The general rule is that as long as there is a rebuild chain like that and the number of "large capacity" magazines you own never increases, you have not illegally manufactured a "large capacity" magazine.
                    Incorrect.

                    Some mag bodies (MagPul) may not interchange between 5.56 and 6.8 -

                    But all my metal mag bodies can run either one....
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                    • #11
                      edward
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 966

                      Originally posted by wash
                      6.8s have a different mag tube as well as the follower.

                      The important part is that they share the same magazine spring and possibly floorplate.

                      As long as one piece is from a legit "large capacity" magazine, you can rebuild it with anything else.

                      Then you can go back and replace the old part to have a completely rebuilt "large capacity" magazine.

                      The general rule is that as long as there is a rebuild chain like that and the number of "large capacity" magazines you own never increases, you have not illegally manufactured a "large capacity" magazine.
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                      • #12
                        lrdchivalry
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1031

                        Originally posted by DannyInSoCal
                        But all my metal mag bodies can run either one....
                        Same here, I didn't have to change mag bodies only the follower.
                        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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