Father deploying, can i take his guns?

[NorCalDustin]

INAL, Your father is not selling or loaning you any guns, he is simply storing them at your house. Not a problem.

Yup... He's storing them at your house because you guys went shooting before he left and decided to just leave them at your house for now.

[G-forceJunkie]

The OP is not being loaned any guns. The father needs to store them. Can you cite where gun owners are required to store their firearms at a particular location? Can you cite where they are required to be within a certain distance of their firearms? A firearm owned by a person can stored in their home, or summer home, or someone elses home, or in a storage facility on the otherside of the country. Ownership is not changing, nothing is being loaned out.

In California ownership and registration are two independent things. You can own a handgun, but if you loan it to somebody for more than 30 days it has to be registered to them. Most people have to do this through an FFL, but because of your family relationship the loan between you and your father can be reported with just the Intra-family/Op-law report.

Some might suggest not sending in the form since there is not much of a chance you are going to have any kind of police contact during your dad's deployment and if you did have a problem you could just say that your dad loaned you the guns 29 days ago while you were talking to him on the phone. But the guilt you would feel about cheating California out of its $19 would probably eat at you for the rest of your life.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

The OP is not being loaned any guns. The father needs to store them.

I was just going by what the OP said. He said he wanted to take possession of his father's guns, to love and nurture them. It appears you have more insight into what's going on between the OP and his father. I wasn't aware that the father just wanted a place to store his guns.

[Briancnelson]

While the common sense answer may be that he's storing them at the son's house, that's not the legal answer. Their presence at his house constitutes a loan under the statute, and the 30 day timer starts ticking. If he's going to store them longer than the 30 days, if he wants to be completely legally in the clear, he should file the necessary interfamilial transfer paperwork, then transfer them back when his father returns.

It's only like $38 bucks. I'd say that's worth it to insure you are complying with the law, even if the law is stupid.

[G-forceJunkie]

I guess I'm making assumptions as well. The only reason for this is the father is going to be out of the country for many months, so I am assuming its a tempory storage issue. Your posts are correct if the OP wants to possess them, shoot them, behave like they are his. I believe my posts would be correct if the father just wants to store them at his sons house during deployment. I don't think the OP was clear enough to deduce which situation is correct.

I was just going by what the OP said. He said he wanted to take possession of his father's guns, to love and nurture them. It appears you have more insight into what's going on between the OP and his father. I wasn't aware that the father just wanted a place to store his guns.

[AragornElessar86]

While the common sense answer may be that he's storing them at the son's house, that's not the legal answer. Their presence at his house constitutes a loan under the statute, and the 30 day timer starts ticking. If he's going to store them longer than the 30 days, if he wants to be completely legally in the clear, he should file the necessary interfamilial transfer paperwork, then transfer them back when his father returns.

It's only like $38 bucks. I'd say that's worth it to insure you are complying with the law, even if the law is stupid.

This. /thread

[Decoligny]

If you live fairly close to your parents, simply borrow the firearms for 30 days, then visit your mother, and return them to your mother (the rifles are joint property with her and your father), for the duration of your visit.

Then borrow them again for another 30 days.