Stupid Garand stories by "experts"

[dieselpower]

Its no different than all the war stories about the M16....

"we used to file the firing pin in our M16s to get faster full auto" Some even omit the "faster" part for the M16A2 and this fixed the burst, if the M16A1 didn't come with a full auto feature in Viet Nam they just filed the firing pin.

This actually steams from a type of trap where you set the weapon up to fully discharge even if after the trigger is released.

"we were issued M16s from__________." insert any number of companies names that really only made small parts and never a full lower. The most common is Mattel Toy company. I have also heard Lockheed and Fairchild Aircraft Company since thats where ArmaLite came from.

"The old 5.56 is just a long .22lr, its was really no different, The enemy would just keep coming at us even when you shot them 30 times! They "fixed" the ammo now so that doesn't happen anymore."

Even now many people still spread BS about the AR15/M16 weapon system. Much of it is NOT backed up with fact, science or real world experience. Its just a bias for or against a certain thing, or company.

[Vanguard]

it actually works in near-close quarters, I've seen it done during reenactments.

Where is your smiley...I know you can't be serious.

[2shotjoe]

I'll check with my grandpa, he used the garand in ww2, korea and then trained others on it.

[hawkeye]

Why do they keep this stupid story going? If you think logically about it for even a split second, you'd know it's b.s.

American rifleman recently covered this story, reiterating that this was myth. I consider them to be more of experts rather than the crackpots the History Channel finds.

[smle-man]

How about "the M1 was a failure because you couldn't top off a partially full magazine"? So how many soldiers walk around with a pocket full of loose rounds just to top off a partially empty magazine? I spoke to a couple Korean war vets about this. Their comments were that they kept pulling the trigger until the rifle was empty and then reloaded. They never counted the rounds, they were too scared witless to do any such thing when getting shot at by hordes of Commies. They shot as much to keep the enemy's head down as to hit something.

When I was a new ROTC cadet with a Winchester (note that I didn't write Winne) M14 I went on an FTX with a pocket full of loose blanks. I jingled like Santa's sleigh and got chewed out for being friggin' stupid. I dumped the blanks in the weeds. Rounds belong in magazines and not in your pocket.

[drifter001]

its because it was on call of duty. if its on call of duty it has to be legit right?

[RandyD]

Its no different than all the war stories about the M16....

"we used to file the firing pin in our M16s to get faster full auto" Some even omit the "faster" part for the M16A2 and this fixed the burst, if the M16A1 didn't come with a full auto feature in Viet Nam they just filed the firing pin.

This actually steams from a type of trap where you set the weapon up to fully discharge even if after the trigger is released.

"we were issued M16s from__________." insert any number of companies names that really only made small parts and never a full lower. The most common is Mattel Toy company. I have also heard Lockheed and Fairchild Aircraft Company since thats where ArmaLite came from.

"The old 5.56 is just a long .22lr, its was really no different, The enemy would just keep coming at us even when you shot them 30 times! They "fixed" the ammo now so that doesn't happen anymore."

Even now many people still spread BS about the AR15/M16 weapon system. Much of it is NOT backed up with fact, science or real world experience. Its just a bias for or against a certain thing, or company.

You forgot to add that the 5.56 round was designed to tumble inside the body and cause massive tissue damage, or if you shot someone in the leg with a 5.56 it would come out of their chest.

[Cokebottle]

You forgot to add that the 5.56 round was designed to tumble inside the body and cause massive tissue damage, or if you shot someone in the leg with a 5.56 it would come out of their chest.

And our guys would pick up the AK's from the dead commies because the AK could use our ammo AND the ammo they'd pick up from the dead commies and wouldn't jam if it got wet.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

This reminds me of movies where the guy has a shotgun pointed at the other guy.

The second guy slowly starts to make a move.

The first guy then pumps the. shotgun to chamber a round, showing that he "means business".

AS IF you would actually draw down on a guy with an EMPTY CHAMBER and only chamber a round if you absolutely had to show the bad guy that you are serious!

[dadoody]

I know this to be false. When I was fighting Nazis back in 2003 in Battlefield1942, the "ping" if it could even be heard from a distance after the deafening sounds of 8 .30-06 doesn't mean all men in that platoon would have emptied their rifles at the same time....along with all the other types of ordnance, artillery, and small arms.

This ping issue might possibly have been an issue in the unlikely event that a serviceman was all alone with his Garand against a group of Nazis...and still highly unlikely that the ping would be the thing that gives him away.

[locosway]

I've been at the range and heard the "ping" of the M1 clip being ejected. This was over other people firing and while wearing ear pro.

My grandpa said you could hear the ping in battle, but nothing more.

His biggest complaint about the M1 was the linseed oil in the stock. When it would get hot from shooting (Okinawa) it would become slick. So he would grab some sand and rub it on the stock.

[Norsemen308]

i have heard it from to many old timers to imagine that it is not true at some point.... Its called fishing... I doubt everyone fell for it, but you can get a dumb one every now and then...

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Ping or no Ping, I'd take a Garand and all of its American rapid fire awesomeness over an Arisaka or Mauser any day.

[dieselpower]

How about "the M1 was a failure because you couldn't top off a partially full magazine"? So how many soldiers walk around with a pocket full of loose rounds just to top off a partially empty magazine? I spoke to a couple Korean war vets about this. Their comments were that they kept pulling the trigger until the rifle was empty and then reloaded. They never counted the rounds, they were too scared witless to do any such thing when getting shot at by hordes of Commies. They shot as much to keep the enemy's head down as to hit something.

When I was a new ROTC cadet with a Winchester (note that I didn't write Winne) M14 I went on an FTX with a pocket full of loose blanks. I jingled like Santa's sleigh and got chewed out for being friggin' stupid. I dumped the blanks in the weeds. Rounds belong in magazines and not in your pocket.

I missed this post first time around "real world" meets "myth" and "real world" wins....love it..

[five.five-six]

"Expert": "The Garand ping....it was. When the enemy heard the ping, they'd pop up and fire. The G.I.s figured out a way around that. They'd take an empty clip and keep it in their pocket...throw it down on the ground...nazis would pop their heads up and, BANG!"

SRY, I couldn't resist