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  • drifter2be
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2177

    Attempted illegal purchase

    Should I report the phone number to BATFE? Guy wanted to buy my sporterized Mosin Nagant, which isn't C&R eligible due to the ATI stock, as a C&R. Told him if he could find an original stock it could be swapped and sold that way, then he told me that he WOULD NOT give me a copy of his DL or sign a statement that he is not ineligible from owning a firearm. Claimed he didn't want the government to know what he had when they do the "Great Gun Confiscation"

    I don't have any of the guy's personal info, aside from his phone number and first name. Should I contact BATFE or just let it go?
    Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
    Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

    "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.
  • #2
    stevie
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3856

    Don't sell it to him and move on....

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    • #3
      Merc1138
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19742

      You found someone shady and or paranoid and decided not to sell. You already did your part. It's even possible that the number you have for the guy is one of those pay as you go 7-11 cellphones if he actually is that paranoid.

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      • #4
        drifter2be
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2177

        Alright. I just wanted to make sure that I had no "responsibility" on my part to report this. Thanks guys.
        Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
        Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

        "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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        • #5
          a1c
          CGSSA Coordinator
          • Oct 2009
          • 9098

          It's not like you're selling this guy a dozen AKs and he's refusing to DROS them.

          He's one of those paranoid kooks who is afraid of the government (nevermind that his bank and credit card company probably knows everything about his purchasing habits). I see some of those guys in gun shows, they won't sell you anything if you have a FFL03 license and ask for their DL for your bound book.
          WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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          • #6
            ClarenceBoddicker
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 2783

            I'd forget about it. Be advised when you report anything like that to LE, the 1st thing they do is to take a real close look at you. They don't know anything about who you are reporting, but they do know that you own firearms. FWIW the authorities do not believe that normal citizens have any right to own any modern firearms. Restriction & registration always lead to eventual confiscation. That is why only pre 1899 guns are classified as antiques. BTW many normal people believe that what they own should be private. Plenty of people are careful how they buy what they want, by only using cash. Some people believe that the 4473 and NICS is 100% un-Constitutional. That's not being some paranoid kook. Look at the history of gun confiscation in the world.

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            • #7
              robcoe
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 8685

              Originally posted by drifter2be
              Should I report the phone number to BATFE? Guy wanted to buy my sporterized Mosin Nagant, which isn't C&R eligible due to the ATI stock, as a C&R. Told him if he could find an original stock it could be swapped and sold that way, then he told me that he WOULD NOT give me a copy of his DL or sign a statement that he is not ineligible from owning a firearm. Claimed he didn't want the government to know what he had when they do the "Great Gun Confiscation"

              I don't have any of the guy's personal info, aside from his phone number and first name. Should I contact BATFE or just let it go?
              Let it go, the guy trying to buy it was probably with the BATF anyway so they know all about it.
              Last edited by robcoe; 01-13-2012, 5:33 PM.
              Yes, I am an electrical engineer.
              No, I will not fix your computer.

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              • #8
                Riflewizard
                Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 107

                call the police on his ***. make his black helicopter dreams come true. Include that he is a drug dealer though

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                • #9
                  5thgen4runner
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 3514

                  Dont be a snitch let it go he'll get caught some other way

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                  • #10
                    prob
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1354

                    Call the BATFE? Really? Why not just forget about it and call it a day.

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                    • #11
                      keenkeen
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2011
                      • 6782

                      Originally posted by ClarenceBoddicker
                      I'd forget about it. Be advised when you report anything like that to LE, the 1st thing they do is to take a real close look at you. They don't know anything about who you are reporting, but they do know that you own firearms. FWIW the authorities do not believe that normal citizens have any right to own any modern firearms. Restriction & registration always lead to eventual confiscation. That is why only pre 1899 guns are classified as antiques. BTW many normal people believe that what they own should be private. Plenty of people are careful how they buy what they want, by only using cash. Some people believe that the 4473 and NICS is 100% un-Constitutional. That's not being some paranoid kook. Look at the history of gun confiscation in the world.
                      THIS^^^

                      And make sure you always wear your tinfoil hat when leaving your hidden bunker.

                      "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                      • #12
                        allpoint
                        Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 209

                        Originally posted by drifter2be
                        Should I report the phone number to BATFE? Guy wanted to buy my sporterized Mosin Nagant, which isn't C&R eligible due to the ATI stock, as a C&R. Told him if he could find an original stock it could be swapped and sold that way, then he told me that he WOULD NOT give me a copy of his DL or sign a statement that he is not ineligible from owning a firearm. Claimed he didn't want the government to know what he had when they do the "Great Gun Confiscation"

                        I don't have any of the guy's personal info, aside from his phone number and first name. Should I contact BATFE or just let it go?
                        This is a question for FFL forum. All FFL's are required to report suspicious activity to the ATF.
                        No Right to Police Protection

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                        • #13
                          Cokebottle
                          Seņor Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32373

                          Originally posted by stevie
                          Don't sell it to him and move on....
                          This.

                          But WRT to his paranoia, C&R eligibility aside, if I were not an 03 and you were not an 03, you would not be getting a copy of my DL.
                          I would show it to you to allow you to verify that I am a CA resident over 18, but you would not be taking any paper home other than dead presidents.

                          There's no legal requirement or procedure for a non-FFL to request or keep any kind of paperwork. The last thing I want is for something with my address to be found in a dumpster attached to anything that says "guns"


                          Now... being an 03, I do need that information, and I'm not going to be an a** and refuse to give the same since I have to ask for it
                          - Rich

                          Originally posted by dantodd
                          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                          • #14
                            Cokebottle
                            Seņor Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 32373

                            Originally posted by allpoint
                            This is a question for FFL forum. All FFL's are required to report suspicious activity to the ATF.
                            Someone not wanting to release their personal information, and not fully understanding C&R qualifications, is not exactly "suspicious activity"
                            - Rich

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                            • #15
                              Massan
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1042

                              Maybe he was an ATF plant.

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