Question in regards to SWAT and guns.

[Big-Kr3w]

So a friend of a friend says hes part-time SWAT or trains with SWAT here in socal, has his concealed permit, and claims he keeps his select fire MP5 at his house. Can this be true, more power to him if it is, just wondering.

[roushstage2]

If I read and understood the threads correctly (remember seeing some here and there about this topic; perhaps not necessarily on this forum either), they can have a select fire issued by their department for "official use" so to speak, but they cannot simply have select fire weapons for their own collection due to their occupation.

[Plisk]

Any officer fun toys, including personally owned Registered Assault Weapons and Select-Fire toys are all owned by the Department. The Personally Owned AWs are owned by the Department and the Officer is allowed to maintain constant possession of it.

I don't know if a Department could allow something like a Class III into off-site possession like that, or maybe they're letting him doing it unofficially. Who knows.

[The War Wagon]

Does he look like this?

[q3131a]

Does he look like this?

Probably...except in high speed low drag tactical black gear.....

[till44]

Is he LE or not? If he's not LE then I'd be very doubtful.

[CSACANNONEER]

I have had calgunner Federal LEOs at my home who are 100% authorized and/or REQUIRED to take their issued select fire weapons home with them. But, I do think it depends on the department or agency and their policies.

[Bob Hostetter]

Just a thought ...

I have never heard of a part time swat assignment. Because of the training needs they are usually assigned to a team for a specific timeframe. They may have other duties or assignments but they rarely just called up 'sometimes fro fill in work".

If he is an LEO he doesn't need a CCW, if he's not a LEO he's not on likely to be on a swat team.

If you are a full time LEO you can legally have any dept issued weapon in your possession at anytime including class 3's. Many depts require it, especially if you are assigned to a team or assignment that is mandated to respond 24/7 to callout's.

[brianinca]

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I have never heard of a part time swat assignment.
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Our Sheriff's Dept "tactical unit" is ALL part time deputies! They have to carry extra gear in their patrol units, and they get extra training. 300+ deputies....not enough to have some dedicated to sitting around cleaning their AR's......

Regards,
Brian in CA

[PsychGuy274]

Just a thought ...

I have never heard of a part time swat assignment. Because of the training needs they are usually assigned to a team for a specific timeframe. They may have other duties or assignments but they rarely just called up 'sometimes fro fill in work".

Most SWAT officers are part-time. The reason is that they aren't used as much as some people like to think and it's a waste of time and money. They call them Sit, Wait, And, Talk teams for a reason.

[vintagearms]

Our PD's entry team are full time LEO. I have trained with them but am an approved volunteer. I do not believe it is possible for SWAT to not be LE.

[Cpl. Haas]

Is this friend-of-a-friend a LEO, or a civilian firearms instructor/FFL who trains local SWAT personnel?

If he's SWAT, then it's not uncommon for them to have take-home vehicles with all their gear/weapons in the trunk...

If he's not a LEO, then he might have an SOT FFL and a CA Dangerous Weapons Permit that would allow him Title II firearms... providing training for military/LE is one of the ways CA will grant you the permit, and the MP5 could be a post-86 dealer sample.

[crackerman]

Just a thought ...

I have never heard of a part time swat assignment.

In north OC county a lot of our cities don't even have swat, the have the North OC combined Swat. Nice guys who I have seen around.

If he is an LEO he doesn't need a CCW, if he's not a LEO he's not on likely to be on a swat team.

Also not out of the realm of possibility. I would ask if he is a fire guy, because when I took PC832 we had a paramedic from an FD who was going to be on the entry team and needed to be sworn.

[CSACANNONEER]

I think the OP was trying to say that his friend, who is a FT LEO, has a PT SWAT assignment.

[Ubermcoupe]

Is this friend-of-a-friend a LEO, or a civilian firearms instructor/FFL who trains local SWAT personnel?

If he's SWAT, then it's not uncommon for them to have take-home vehicles with all their gear/weapons in the trunk...

If he's not a LEO, then he might have an SOT FFL and a CA Dangerous Weapons Permit that would allow him Title II firearms... providing training for military/LE is one of the ways CA will grant you the permit, and the MP5 could be a post-86 dealer sample.

This is what I was thinking.

LEO issued a SF weapon or FFL/armorer who can legally posses SF weapons.