Bolting Down My Safe

[Thomas1190]

I just purchased my first safe, a 24 gun AMSEC, and im going to bolt it down in my closet at all four corners. I was wondering if there's a certain manufacurer of wedge anchors you guys would recommend. Im sure theres a level of quality and tensile strength between different brands. Lowes and Home Depot carry "Red Head" Anchors. This is what i was looking at. Would these be suitable?

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100156711/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Also is there a certain minimum length you would recommend, 4" , 5"? Any other recommendations for bolting it down?

[five.five-six]

Yup, Hilti read heads if they are going into concrete

[Creampuff]

Just in case:
You don't live on a tensioned slab?

[Thomas1190]

Negative on the post tensioned slab. Im GTG

[Creampuff]

Based on your avatar, I figured you already knew. Sorry.... just had to toss in that question just in case.

[Thomas1190]

No problem . I heard some stories so that was the first thing i checked lol

[TheExpertish]

Linkpimp did a pretty good writeup if you don't already have the general idea down.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=485561

[Thomas1190]

Linkpimp did a pretty good writeup if you don't already have the general idea down.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=485561

Thanks! Thats pretty much what i was planning on doing except I was going to try and do it with the safe in place. Im going to rent the drill fom Home Depot. I was just seeing if anybody had any experience with these Red Head brand anchors. Im thinking about getting the 4 1/4" length anchors.

[theduece]

How thick is the slab? If you go through you will need to epoxy them in.

[Thomas1190]

That im not entirely sure. Any way to find out that doesnt invlove drilling a hole? lol

[Coyotegunner]

Working in a sewer plant for 20 years taught me to use the best anchors possible.Red Heads are OK.somebody mentioned Hilti,they are a little better quality.Check with Hub or some other concrete supply company.Now let me share something else.Depending on how heavy the safe is.Were you going to use the stud type?Consider the drop in style that require a bolt.I have had to relocate 2 Browning Gold safes,due to a move.They are 1200 plus pounds(empty) and I am pretty freaking sure they would have went with the house if I used the stud style.If the safe is light enough,I do not care what anchor you use,a person with a little energy on their hands can and will use the height of the safe as a lever to get it rocking to work the studs up.The epoxy studs work better in that regard.Anybody reading this keep in mind,put the safe as far away from tools as possible.We had a guy at our gun club that went on vacation a few years ago.The FFd up people that new he had left,had the run of his place for 6 days.His own sawzall cut the top corner of his high end Browning safe completely open.They were only able to get 7 of the guns out,but his wife lost a large jewelry box worth over $40,000 out of the corner of the safe.By the way the power tools all left with the thieves also,after they cut up and pissed on everything in the house.

[Thomas1190]

Thanks for that coyotegunner. Yes, i was planning on using the stud anchors .I have considered drop ins because of the very point you mentioned. The safe will be moved out within a couple years. I wasnt sure what the hold down benefits were of the drop ins versus the stud. But my safe isnt nearly 1200# so my plan was using the long studs to get maximum hold, then figure out how to move it once the times comes lol

[tozan]

Thanks for that coyotegunner. Yes, i was planning on using the stud anchors .I have considered drop ins because of the very point you mentioned. The safe will be moved out within a couple years. I wasnt sure what the hold down benefits were of the drop ins versus the stud. But my safe isnt nearly 1200# so my plan was using the long studs to get maximum hold, then figure out how to move it once the times comes lol

I used 1/2 inch drop in's for mine, it will be much easier to just fill in the holes when I move. I don't think longer then 3 inch will actually matter, but either way you should be able to install them with the safe in place. Put it against the wall and if you and get it in a corner better yet that will make rocking much harder

[theduece]

I have no idea how to check for thickness other than drilling. Stud anchors have a higher rating typically. When you move just cut them off and recarpet the closet. +1 on putting into a corner and also bolting to studs.


No way to completely theft proof but there are ways to slow down typical smash and grab.

Hilti tz anchors are stainless and carry a very high rating are available at HD. And the epoxy is kinda spendy but you will not be able to remove them after. Use a large plate to sandwich the safe, like a washer. Don't know where you are located but if your near oc I might have a few anchors and some epoxy.

[paul0660]

Attach it to the wall as well..........or only to the wall. Much easier and prevents the bad guys from rocking it loose.