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  • #16
    FatalKitty
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2942

    Originally posted by repubconserv
    If Bill, or anyone else from CGF says Tannerite is a bad idea... I am going to agree.
    bill has already said it in several threads.

    like... a lot.

    a lot a lot.

    start agreeing.



    better yet. READ THE LAW YOURSELF and decide... rather than having someone who is not even a lawyer tell you what to do like some sheeple
    you don't rise to the occasion,
    you just fall back on your level of training.

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    • #17
      repubconserv
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 3056

      Originally posted by FatalKitty
      bill has already said it in several threads.

      like... a lot.

      a lot a lot.

      start agreeing.



      better yet. READ THE LAW YOURSELF and decide... rather than having someone who is not even a lawyer tell you what to do like some sheeple
      I know he did... I was saying I do agree... sorry bad wording on my part.

      I did read the law myself, and from my limited knowledge I agree. The part about dry ice bombs was a big factor.

      If you like using Tannerite, more power to you. I hope we get any insane restrictions abolished soon, but until that happens... I wont be using it

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      • #18
        LBDamned
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 19040

        because one tannerite legality thread wasnt enough...

        I suspect if someone were to post a thread asking what tanneite smells like, it would end up in a legal/not legal debate...
        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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        • #19
          dieselpower
          Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 11471

          Originally posted by LBDamned
          because one tannerite legality thread wasnt enough...

          I suspect if someone were to post a thread asking what tanneite smells like, it would end up in a legal/not legal debate...
          Post asking how to make a bigger boom or how to mix 1gallon quantities of an illegal explosive need to be closed just as fast as....

          "Hey, I just bought a bunch of 30rd magazine kits and need to know how to make it look like I owned then pre-2000 since I just want them as large capacity magazines... Should I ruff them up a bit? Should I have a friend right a fake letter from my dead grandfather saying he left them to me? I don't use 10 rd magazines, I think those are stupid. I am not going to get busted because the law is stupid."

          A Mod would delete that thread in seconds and the OP would probably get a ban... yet coming here and asking how to properly mix a binary explosive to get a bigger explosion is ok...

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          • #20
            -hanko
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2002
            • 14174

            Originally posted by dieselpower

            A Mod would delete that thread in seconds and the OP would probably get a ban... yet coming here and asking how to properly mix a binary explosive to get a bigger explosion is ok...
            ...the original post was about packaging, the mixing ratios stay the same.

            To me, the law is clear.

            -hanko
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            • #21
              FatalKitty
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 2942

              Originally posted by repubconserv
              I know he did... I was saying I do agree... sorry bad wording on my part.

              I did read the law myself, and from my limited knowledge I agree. The part about dry ice bombs was a big factor.

              If you like using Tannerite, more power to you. I hope we get any insane restrictions abolished soon, but until that happens... I wont be using it
              my mistake

              I for one believe that it is legal when used as a target indicator the way it's supposed to be used. But so many people use it as an explosive to blow stuff up.
              I pretty much don't buy it any more. If there is this much uncertainty among calguns legal experts that we all think we are... then there would certainly be confusion among cops/dfg officials, and DAs.
              you don't rise to the occasion,
              you just fall back on your level of training.

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              • #22
                saki302
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 7183

                Too much risk, IMO, even if it's quasi-legal.

                If you do use it, I'd leave the container open (don't cap it). The law does specify closed container.

                One thing it is great for is a target indicator at long ranges- i.e. 600-1000 yards. But you need a pretty darn good rifle to hit one at those distances. Cheaper and less risky IMO to use a high powered spotting scope

                -Dave

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                • #23
                  SocomM4
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2187

                  Ok, so its legal to buy, have and use as directed?
                  Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                  maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
                  Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                  I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
                  Originally posted by Ride Madone
                  It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.

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                  • #24
                    FatalKitty
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2942

                    Originally posted by SocomM4
                    Ok, so its legal to buy, have and use as directed?
                    the laws state that it's illegal to possess an explosive.

                    we are allowed the possession of black powder for reloading purposes, even though that **** is explosive.

                    what I believe is that when used properly as a target indicator it is legal (and as Bill has stated, in SMALL 1/2 or 1 lb containers, NOT gallons of the stuff)
                    when you put it in a pumpkin or TV to blow **** up... then it's being used as an explosive and not legal.

                    this is just my belief and I am not a lawyer, nor am I anyone that gives a **** if you get in trouble using it after I said i think it's legal.
                    you don't rise to the occasion,
                    you just fall back on your level of training.

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                    • #25
                      dieselpower
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 11471

                      Originally posted by SocomM4
                      Ok, so its legal to buy, have and use as directed?
                      you tell me....

                      12301.
                      (b) The term "explosive," as used in this chapter, shall mean any explosive defined in Section 12000 of the Health and Safety Code.
                      PC12312. Every person who possesses any substance, material, or any combination of substancesor materials, with the intent to make any destructive device or any explosive without first obtaining a valid permit to make such destructive device or explosive, is guilty of a felony, and is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years.

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                      • #26
                        WGM-TAC
                        Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 100

                        Originally posted by dieselpower

                        Its an explosive that is off the AG / DoJ RADAR right now.
                        Off the radar for now, but I doubt for long. I hear calls about the stuff on the scanner more and more lately.

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                        • #27
                          SocomM4
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 2187

                          Well diesel, going by your compelling post I'd have to say that it is not legal.

                          I didn't even watch the video, just looking at the image I can tell that's an explosive.

                          I just laughed sooo hard at the Mad Russian on YouTube, when he shoots the tan with his ak he gets so happy lol
                          love that dude !
                          Last edited by SocomM4; 11-28-2011, 9:13 PM.
                          Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                          maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
                          Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                          I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
                          Originally posted by Ride Madone
                          It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.

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                          • #28
                            LBDamned
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 19040

                            ignorance of the law is no excuse to break it.

                            There hasn't been one definitive post in the two existing threads that clearly and concisely defines the law.

                            Therefore - IMHO, you'd be taking a BIG risk using the stuff and representing yourself (or having the "free" counsel represent you)... In CA, I strongly suspect it's a losing proposition.

                            Having that been said... As posted in other thread - it's highly unlikely that anyone would even notice, much less give a shyte, if you blasted this stuff in the middle of the desert.

                            This topic is becoming as mundane and non-specific as the "occupiers"... lets all move along now...
                            "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                            • #29
                              SocomM4
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 2187

                              Well I don't know why it's a debate in the first place it seems very simple.

                              From my few hours of slight interest and no legal schooling,I'd say this about tannerite,

                              In its pre-mix ,store bought form it is legal to buy,own,transport and sell.
                              But mixing it is considered a felonious act as you are making a bomb.

                              That's it. Plain English .

                              If your unlucky enough to get caught, I have no doubt you would be charged with a felony.Cops LOVE felony arrests.
                              Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                              maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
                              Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                              I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
                              Originally posted by Ride Madone
                              It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.

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                              • #30
                                steadyrock
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 10235

                                Originally posted by dieselpower
                                you tell me....
                                Tannerite does not result in a release of gas and heat. Tannerite results in the release of water vapor. Tannerite does not meet the definition of "explosive" as defined by your cited H&S code.
                                Do not give in to evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.

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