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  • Wiggawam
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 84

    AK Pistol Under 21

    Is it legal to bend up your own AK47 flat into a pistol if you are under 21. I know you can won a pistol if you are over 18 through a family transfer so I am unsure. Tried running a search and couldn't find any info, thanks.
  • #2
    JHC
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1382

    I'm curious to know this too, a guy at work was asking me. If it is legal I bet you still need to get an HSC

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    • #3
      Sal
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 690

      OK, as far as i've been able to dig up is that CA has no specific laws banning it if you build your own firearm.

      I've emailed the ATF on the issue, and their response was pretty much to the effect that if you can own the gun legally that you can build it.

      As CA law allows an 18 year old to OWN a pistol you should be able to build one. The ATF worded it quite specifically to say that as long as you can own and possess the firearm, and never mentioned that you had to be able to PURCHASE, so it should be legal.

      You will need your HSC at least, as that is a requirement in CA to get pistols at 18 through the intrafamiliar transfer.
      We're not done yet, we're not going quietly. We'll win in the end.

      Owner, Gunsmith at Matchgrade Gunsmiths, Cerritos.

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      • #4
        Wiggawam
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 84

        Originally posted by Sal
        OK, as far as i've been able to dig up is that CA has no specific laws banning it if you build your own firearm.

        I've emailed the ATF on the issue, and their response was pretty much to the effect that if you can own the gun legally that you can build it.

        As CA law allows an 18 year old to OWN a pistol you should be able to build one. The ATF worded it quite specifically to say that as long as you can own and possess the firearm, and never mentioned that you had to be able to PURCHASE, so it should be legal.

        You will need your HSC at least, as that is a requirement in CA to get pistols at 18 through the intrafamiliar transfer.
        Thanks a lot for the quick reply Sal and all the research. Time to go get my HSC, expect a PM about that mobile flat bending service from me sometime soon hopefully!

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        • #5
          DedEye
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2006
          • 8655

          Jumbopands built his AK pistol, ask him.
          These posts are Fiction. They do not contain legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. Any resemblance to real persons are pure coincidence. These posts may pose an inhalation hazard, reading can be harmful or fatal. No statements made on this forum are meant to represent any corporate or business entity, others, or myself. Especially not myself.

          Stop duping answers, help expand the FAQ.

          Why yes, that is me in my avatar and yes, I AM wearing a life jacket.

          WTS Keltec P11

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          • #6
            Wiggawam
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 84

            Originally posted by DedEye
            Jumbopands built his AK pistol, ask him.
            I thought he was older than twenty-one?

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            • #7
              DedEye
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2006
              • 8655

              Originally posted by Wiggawam
              I thought he was older than twenty-one?
              Ask him.
              These posts are Fiction. They do not contain legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. Any resemblance to real persons are pure coincidence. These posts may pose an inhalation hazard, reading can be harmful or fatal. No statements made on this forum are meant to represent any corporate or business entity, others, or myself. Especially not myself.

              Stop duping answers, help expand the FAQ.

              Why yes, that is me in my avatar and yes, I AM wearing a life jacket.

              WTS Keltec P11

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              • #8
                jumbopanda
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2006
                • 8382

                12801. (a) As used in this article, the following definitions shall apply: (1) "Department" means the Department of Justice. (2) "DOJ Certified Instructor" or "certified instructor" means a person designated as a handgun safety instructor by the Department of Justice pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 12804. (b) No person shall do either of the following: (1) Purchase or receive any handgun, except an antique firearm, as defined in paragraph (16) of subsection (a) of Section 921 of Title 18 of the United States Code, without a valid handgun safety certificate. (2) Sell, deliver, loan, or transfer any handgun, except an antique firearm, as defined in paragraph (16) of subsection (a) of Section 921 of Title 18 of the United States Code, to any person who does not have a valid handgun safety certificate. (c) Any person who violates subdivision (b) is guilty of a misdemeanor. (d) The provisions of this section are cumulative, and shall not be construed as restricting the application of any other law. However, an act or omission punishable in different ways by different provisions of this code shall not be punished under more than one provision.
                If you create a gun, you're not receiving it from anyone, so I'd say you're good to go. Maybe someone else should chime in here. But it's not hard to get an HSC and you'll want to get one eventually anyway so just go get it over with.

                I'm 18 by the way.
                Mo' BBs.

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                • #9
                  VeryCoolCat
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 11275

                  You're all going to jail
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
                  The volume of blood necessary to achieve erection would cause you to either pass out or if you didn't and managed to maintain an erection you would likely die from lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.
                  Originally posted by ivanimal
                  Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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                  • #10
                    JHC
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1382

                    With all this flat bending going on I cant wait to see the "Show your AK pistol" thread start. I don't want to be the only one prosecuted

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                    • #11
                      AJAX22
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2006
                      • 14980

                      Originally posted by JHC
                      With all this flat bending going on I cant wait to see the "Show your AK pistol" thread start. I don't want to be the only one prosecuted
                      Jumbo panda's posted pics of his, sal's posted pics of his, I've shown pics of my M11/9... and I'll show pics of my homebuilt AR pistol as soon as I've got it done.

                      Lots of other people have done it as well, just not many have posted pics.
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                      • #12
                        JHC
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1382

                        Originally posted by AJAX22
                        Jumbo panda's posted pics of his, sal's posted pics of his, I've shown pics of my M11/9... and I'll show pics of my homebuilt AR pistol as soon as I've got it done.

                        Lots of other people have done it as well, just not many have posted pics.
                        I posted mine last December but got alot of emails warning me to remove the pictures from the chicken-littles here. There's safety in numbers and a show in tell thread might get more prople to understand that these are legal.

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